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Strange that none of the media (TV or Print) have picked this up at all. Or have they been deliberately ignoring it?
Have a look at the above picture of one of the terrorists. [Another angle]
Notice the orange thread / band on his right hand.
Tying a red thread or cord around the wrist is a Hindu practice and it is unlikely a Muslim, especially one politicized enough to carry out an attack such as this, would observe it. I think this provides more evidence that this was a false flag operation or at least an attack by a non-Muslim group. For more information about the significance of the red thread see wikipedia and this blog post. [Thanks to Uruk]
Additionally, the terrorists inside the Nariman House Building were reported to have stocked up on supplies on Wednesday evening, buying not just food items but liquor, among other things, from a local store [Source]. Again, it is highly unlikely that a Muslim, let alone a ‘Mujahid’, and especially one politicized enough to carry out such an attack, would consume liquor in normal life, let alone hours before his inevitable ‘martyrdom’.
Don’t let them ignore it. Circulate this to as many people as you can as we strongly believe it wouldn’t have been ignored if the terrorists were carrying a copy of the Qur’an, or a taveez.
Kalava
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Kalava (Sanskrit: कलावा) is the sacred Hindu thread. It is worn while performing Hindu rituals like Yajna or Puja. It is tied by a priest on the wrists of all the people attending the prayer ceremony. Kalava is tied on right hand of males and unmarried females, and on left hand of married females. Sometimes it has small yellow parts in between the mostly red string. It sometimes has knots which are tied up while reciting Sanskrit mantras to invoke God and is worn to ward off evil from the person who wears this red thread.
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November 29, 2008 at 3:00 pm
It is surprising that even if the so called ‘terrorists’ were Pakistani trained SSG commandos as alleged by many Indian members, I’m surprised how 12 men could besiege two major hotels for such a long while.
The hold ups were so well planned and executed with such precision!
Were all hotel security measures mere proxies?
Plus, 12 men vs. 1200 Indian security forces (involving everyone from Indian ATF to serving Indian Commandos) – the assault went on for almost 60 hrs!
Wow, isn’t that rather shocking? 12 men vs. 1200 (with all helicopters/equipment etc.)? And yet such a long battle for the takeover by Indian authorities?
Either the alleged Pakistani trained commandos are at least 100 times superior to the combined force of the Indian forces A to Z or this was merely a drama orchestrated by the intelligence agencies in India to achieve ulterior motives in future – (just like the 9/11 was used as the Wild Card by the CIA to attack Afghanistan & Iraq).
Some of which is quite clear and has been repeatedly mentioned and identified by different Pakistani sources.
So here are the two possibilities: If it is proved that these 12 men were in fact Pakistani trained, then Indians should be ashamed of their armed commandos who took 60 hours to clear out 12 men and should accept their inferiority when it comes to real time combat. If not, then Indians need to buckle up for a rough ride. There’s an evil within their country that they’ll have to fight and bring into limelight. RAW, by staging this drama, will indirectly be responsible for the massacre of almost 200 Indian citizens and another 300 casualties just to make way to achieve its hidden motives behind the whole drama.
Let’s see how it unveils.
November 29, 2008 at 4:36 pm
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November 29, 2008 at 8:52 pm
“The CIA” did not attack Iraq or Afghanistan.
CIA is a civilian agency ( http://www.cia.gov NOT http://www.cia.mil )
The uniformed military forces of a number of countries did.
Tony
November 29, 2008 at 9:47 pm
Hi Tony
I suggest you watch these videos:
http://pakalert.wordpress.com/2008/11/20/video-secrets-of-the-cia/
November 30, 2008 at 10:11 am
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November 30, 2008 at 10:26 am
Very convincing evidence. That it has been staged by the RAW for their nefarious plans against Pakistan.
December 1, 2008 at 6:32 am
This is a part of those evil efforts which have been doing by the Agencies of America, Israel and India against Islam, against muslims. But they must remember that Allah has bestowed this light of Islam on mankind for their guidence toward straight and rightous direction.
They must keep in their mind that light of Islam has come to brighten this world and it will never be going to be off. Never!
December 1, 2008 at 10:52 am
INDIA WANTS TO HIDE THEIR WEAKNESS & THOSE MOVEMENTS WHICH ARE WORKING INSIDE INDIA & ARE AGAINST BEHAVIOR OF THE STATE WITH MINORITIES.
December 1, 2008 at 11:13 am
The US won’t be able to fix the doomed economy, so what better way to distract the public from that than by starting a war with Pakistan?
Very disturbing on the sheer amount of carnage and chaos caused by such a small number of individuals.
December 1, 2008 at 11:45 am
Senseless Attack on Mumbai
Some Unanswered Questions?
By Latheef Farook
Is the senseless attack on Mumbai and the heartless killings of innocent people on Thursday 27 a pretext to unleash a campaign to slaughter Muslims as it was done in the aftermath of the 9/11 events in New York and Pensylvania? The ever growing Washington. London, Tel Aviv and New Delhi axis buttress this fear.
Will the Hindu extremist forces, which hijacked Indian politics under the umbrella of Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh, RSS, unleash, yet another anti Muslim pogrom or prepare the ground to invade and turn Pakistan into another Iraq?
These are some of the questions lingering the minds of Muslims all over in the aftermath of the Mumbai carnage last week. This fear emanates from the fact that this exactly what happened in the aftermath of the 9/11 events in New York when the most detestable US President George Bush, backed by disgraced British Prime minister Tony Blair, unleashed a global campaign demonizing Islam and Muslims to implement their evil designs.
Since then almost every independent inquiry into the WTC attack came to one conclusion. And that was neither Al Qaeda nor any other Muslim had anything to do with it”. However, the evil forces behind this tragedy had done the damage .They continue the anti Muslim campaign unabated hand in glove with Europe, Russia, India , China and with the active collaboration of Arab dictators. The pro Jewish Western media, which remains an integral part of Western war machine, has been in the forefront in selling the myth that Muslims promote terrorism.
As expected, even before a suspect was captured the Western media joined by the Indian media, began involving Islamic militants to mislead people all over.
First, an unknown group called Deccan Mujahedeen was blamed. The question is how such a sophisticated, well coordinated ,simultaneous and multiple attack was planned and executed by such an unknown group without being detected by the Indian intelligence services?
Within hours, Lashker e Taiba ,fighting Indian rule in Kashmir, was accused. Then the Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh accused a group based in a neighboring country- obviously meaning Pakistan .Traditionally Indian governments blame neighboring Pakistan or Bangladesh and swiftly arrest members of banned Students’ Islamic Movement of India, SIMI, for attacks on Indian soil .Singing the chorus the United States too accused Lashker e Tayeba.
Condemning this as a beastly act, Indian Muslim leaders demanded that the perpetrators be brought to justice while observing that such a massive attack that requires a lot of preparation, material and logistic support, could not take place without the connivance of some high placed power or backer. They urged for all to rise above politics, face this threat in unity and refrain from using it for petty political ends.
They also requested the authorities not to rush to any conclusion as it was routinely done in the past, but to patiently probe taking into account the various local and foreign powers, including foreign intelligence agencies, which may benefit from this chaos and insecurity.
However, this statement failed to draw the attention of Indian and foreign media.
By the time, the only surviving suspect, wearing a red thread around the wrist, a Hindu tradition, was taken into custody the media managed to brainwash people that it was the Muslims who were behind these attacks.
During the past few months, there has been a spate of bomb explosions in different parts of India and the police, as a rule, suspected, arrested, tortured and even killed Muslim youths.On September 29, there was a bomb blast in Malegaon that claimed six lives.
In this connection, five people were detained by the Anti Terrorist Squad ,ATS, in Pune. The detained five included two army officers ,one of them a Major (Retd) Prabhakar Kulkarni , heading the Bhonsala Military School and College run by the Central Hindu Military Education Society, and three Hindu activists -Sadhvi Pradnyasingh Thakur, a so called female saint, Shivnarayansing Kalsangram and Shyam Sahu. They were blamed for a series of deadly bombings in Malegaon in September, which were initially blamed on Muslim militants.
The arrest of especially the female saint Sadhvi, with close links to Hindu extremist forces, alarmed the BJP and other Hindu extremist parties.
Hemant Karkare, Maharashtra Anti-Terrorism Squad ,ATS, chief,was about to disclose these Hindu militants’ involvement in the recent bombings in India and he came under severe criticism by the Hindu extremist forces including the BJP.Indian media reported on November 27 that Hemant Karkare had received death threats days earlier over his plan to unravel the Hindu terrorist cell. The Press Trust of India news agency reportedly received phone calls on November 26 threatening to blow up within days the residence of Karkare known for his discipline and integrity.
The unanswered question is why would the terrorists, if as alleged they were Muslims, kill Karkare who was about to expose Hindu terrorism? The irony is that all three ATS officers, Hemant Karkare, DIG Ashok Kale and encounter specialist Vijay Salazar, were eliminated during last week’s attack on Mumbai.
In another development journalist and human rights activist Amrish Mishra have accused Israel’s secret service agent Mossad and the RSS for the attack on Mumbai. Moreover, they attacked the Taj Hotel, a precious heritage building which reminds the Mogul rule in India which the Hindu extremists, who wanted to wipe out all traces of Islam and Muslims in their drive to set up a Hindu Raj in India, hate.
Describing the attack as grave as the killing of Mahatma Gandhi and the demolition of Babri Masjid, Mishra claimed that the killing of brave ATS officers who could have shown the real face of the saffron terrorism created suspicion. Besides the starting of the firing from Nariman House where substantial numbers of Jews live, showed that this was an anti-national act of terror involving Mossad’s hand, because this kind of attack is just not possible by RSS alone. it was the joint ‘effort’ of Mossad and RSS.
Mishra clearly saw in the TV that Hemant Karkare was wearing the helmet for the confrontation and was shocked to hear after half an hour that he was killed. After the attack, some miscreants had come on the road with saffron flags chanting anti-Muslim slogans but people drove them out.
Those who are very much in touch with the situation did not seem to believe that these attacks are the handy work of any Muslim terrorist organization because they know the forces behind these attacks.
Talking to TV channels, many pointed out that the number of Jews started to increase at Nariman House arousing suspicion forcing them to lodge a complaint with the police which failed to take any action. They believe that this tragedy could have been averted had the police acted on the complaint. Besides people around the area had stated that, on Wednesday night Jews at Nariman House had purchased and stocked food stuff and even liquor from a local store. It is highly unlikely that a Muslim, let alone a ‘Mujahid’, and especially one politicized enough to carry out such an attack, would consume liquor in normal life, let alone hours before his inevitable ‘martyrdom’.
India is one country, which managed to maintain good relations with Israel ever since its inception while showing a friendly face to the gullible Arab dictators. These ties between Zionist Jews and especially the RSS, bonded together by their inherent hatred towards Muslims, flourished since the two countries established diplomatic ties following the signing of late PLO Chairman Yasser Arafat’s sham of Oslo Peace Agreement with Israel.
According to Mishra the heroic death of Hemant Karkare has left the BJP-Shiv Sena combine with eggs on their faces. On Friday, Narendra Modi, BJP’s poster-boy chief minister and Hindutva mascot, paid lofty tributes to Karkare and other senior cops who lost their lives in the counter attack. However, before his death on duty, Karkare and his colleagues at the ATS were at the receiving end of almost a slanderous attack not only by BJP and Shiv Sena leaders, but also by several Sangh Parivar organizations for the ongoing ATS probe into the Malegaon blasts.
In fact, it is worthy to recall that few months ago there was a deadly attack against the US embassy in the Yemeni Capital Sanaa. As expected Muslims were accused. However, the Yemeni President Ali Abdullah Saleh later disclosed that the attack was linked to Israeli intelligence service-Mossad.
Few simple rational questions to think about this attack were;
1. Can anyone in the world remember or worry about the case against Hindu terrorist cell, which was unveiled by Maharashtra’s ATS chief Hemant Karkare? Now it is successfully diverted. Isn’t it?
2. Where is Karkare now? Wasn’t he wiped out from this world by the terrorists at the initial stage of this Drama?
3. Why didn’t Indian forces or any media show a single dead body of terrorist during the first two days?
4. How can the so-called “foreign terrorists” continue to fight for more than two days without worrying about the stock of the weapons? They had been blasting, shooting and setting fires here and there. Did they bring such a large quantity of military hardware?
5. If so, how did they bring such a large quantity of weapons for this attack? Wasn’t it amazing that they had been getting enough weapons just as if somebody was supplying the ammunition stock to continue the attack successfully?
6. Wouldn’t it any one believe that this kind of barbaric killings can only be done by groups motivated by ultra-racism such as RSS, VHP and the Israeli military?
Explaining the grim situation faced by Indian Muslims Jaipur based human rights activist Kavita Srivastava , President of the Rajasthan chapter of the Peoples’ Union for Civil Liberties said;
“Muslims are being readily branded as terrorists, and soon after the blasts large numbers of innocent Muslims were wrongly suspected as terrorists, arrested and interrogated by the police, and many of them were subjected to cruel torture. The police somehow automatically assume that Muslims were responsible for the blasts, without having any proof. Almost a fourth of those who died in the Jaipur blasts were Muslims,although Muslims account for just about a tenth of the city’s population.
Anti-Muslim bias in agencies of the state is mounting today. Just one instance of this is how some of the Muslims picked up by the police were asked if they believe in the Quran or in the Indian Constitution, this ridiculous question reflecting the entirely erroneous notion that a religious and observant Muslim somehow is a traitor or a potential traitor to India.
And then there is the media. They simply parrot the police version of any Muslim whom it picks up as a terrorist, and when it is found that this person is innocent and is subsequently let off, the media chooses not to say anything about it. So, in this way, the image of large numbers of Muslims is being deliberately tarnished. Many of them have lost their jobs because of this, and are tainted in society for the rest of their lives although they have nothing to do with terrorism.
Ends
December 2, 2008 at 2:35 am
Regarding Kalva,
I have seen a Hindi movie where a Pundit Durbar (Vikram Gokhale ) ties kalva in Salman khan’s hand and asks for the complete devotion to his mission of learning music. At the end he unties the kalva and kicks Salman out of Aish’s life. Ultimately Salman sings “Tadap Tadap” ke and walks towards Italy from deserts of Rajstan.
I think, these kalvas are the symbol of commitment which is a much required quality when one puts his/her life in stake.
More than a religious thing, i think this is a hollywood conspiracy, As earlier this year there was a movie on terrorism featuring Anupam Kher and Nasaruddin Shah, that had the name ‘A Wednesday’ and the co-incidence is that this evil incident happened on Wednesday.
Whole point,
You cannot go on doing small evils in the shadow of the big evil. Pointing fingers to a particular religion either its Hinduism or Islam is another act of terror itself.
December 2, 2008 at 2:59 am
I am not sure if i can entirely buy conspiracy theories, though one thing is certain. I do not think that we can foresee another partition of India just yet. But BJP had sown the seeds of it, and it is quite clear following the landslide mandate granted to Modi that he enjoys popular Indian radical support. If acts of violence continue we can be certain of “Indian Prime Minister Modi” sometime soon.
Meet potential Future Prime Minister of India via his track record:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwWKBHlvZUA
India is rapidly drifting towards right wing fanatic fundamentalism, it has began undoing India as we speak, remember the help these guys got from “Gujrat to get to Mumbai via boat”. That tells us that Gujrat victims have given up their fight to get justice, and are very much prone to act out as terrorists and their “handlers” in Gujrat and in Mumbai.
The situation can be reversed India can choose to unite and fight terrorism and injustice which is mostly responsible for creating terrorists in India or they can divide and either kill all the Muslims and Christians in India or have more partitions. and well that all depends on what kind of mood BJP is in, in a given election year. I said depends on BJP in India because rest of India rushes to the polls to elect BJP with a landslide after every bloody riot and mass murder in India.
December 2, 2008 at 9:23 am
The highly visible wristband could have been just a marker. Its meaning? “This is the guy you need to take alive,” so he could tell the world a certain narrative, if you see what I mean.
December 2, 2008 at 1:15 pm
The BJP is more dangerous for India than terrorists.
UK Daily Telegraph is now reporting that Indian authorities have found evidence of drug-taking by terrorists. Traces of cocaine and LSD have been found in a syringe and in the blood of those killed.
December 2, 2008 at 2:53 pm
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December 2, 2008 at 5:23 pm
It smells of MI5/MI6 and Mossad
December 2, 2008 at 6:51 pm
yea it sounds like mossad
December 2, 2008 at 8:30 pm
did you read this ?
Mossad strikes in Mumbai
http://www.RealJewNews.com/?p=333
December 2, 2008 at 9:20 pm
these terrorists were most likely dual citizens of either britain,egypt or the usa. and indeed they most likely were aided by indian police beureu of affairs and intel. pakistani military(naval) may also supplied their needs,but most of all the egyptian jihads under the aid of al-zawaheiri(which came out with a “green light” statement just a week or two previous,was involved(similar to the luxor pyramid killings of british and other tourists a few years ago.
this was an effort by india and egypt to undermine the pakistanis and for al-quaeda to start a larger war in the region…which will one day occur.
rasputin
December 3, 2008 at 5:52 am
There are many signs that this was a false flag operation.
Consider:
1. This “lone survivor” who is in Indian Custody is wearing a Hindu religious symbol in his right wrist.
2. The indian press said he is from “Faridkot” in Pakistan. A quick search on Google maps shows there is no such place in Pakistan, although there is such a town in India.
3 Look at his height features and skin color. The odds are very very low you would find this body type in Pakistan. He looks South Indian or Bangladeshi at best.
The Chabab jewish center attacked is a jewish group opposed to Zionism and Israel and is actively hounded in Israel as it does not accept Zionism as Jewish.
The center was so low profile and small that only the Israelis and the Indians would have known it was there.
If 10 gunmen pulled this off for 60 hours than I am the tooth fairy. This involved atleast 100 operatives with intimate knowledge of Mumbai, I.E LOCALS.
The attackers killed the senior Indian Police officer that was hunting down Hindu terrorist who recently bombed a train and the Indian Government had Blamed Pakistan. He had arrested a serving Indian Lt. Colonel amonst others. The culprits had links to the BJP, RSS and Hindu Fascist groups.
MOTIVATION:
The BJP stands to gain votes from such an attack in the upcoming elections.
Hindu extremists can use it to carry out genocide as they recently did in Gujrat.
The Pakistanis have an agenda to end the era of hostile relations with India and this agenda has been neatly subverted.
The Pakistanis would have to be crazy to open a second front on the east when they are at war on the west>
The Pakistani economy is in no condition to weather the cost of hostilities with India.
I vote this was a false flag operation.
December 3, 2008 at 5:54 am
Here is what typical Pakistanis look like:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jeWcbTC4m4
They do not look like this:
http://pakalert.wordpress.com/2008/11/29/evidence-being-deliberately-ignored/
This Hindu Fascist Mossad Hoax will not stand.
December 3, 2008 at 6:43 am
take this from another perspective as recent revealations of indian army assisting hindu extremists led investigations by the indian police in which very hidden things were coming on surface……..
may be this terror attack by extremist hindus is a message for Indian government
December 3, 2008 at 11:46 am
The 9/11 attackers were in strip clubs the week before the attack.
The only thing that proved was that their beliefs were a sham.
December 3, 2008 at 12:28 pm
this has gotta be sum plot of the usa….come on, american govement is in bad times, oil has dropped big time in price, obama was put in coz of americas situation and he will be blamed for the fall of the nation.
iraq afghanistan war …. american people and the people of the world realised there are no nuclear weapons of mass distruction there.
the war was for oil only.
then you got pakistan who gave america a base to work with. ex president musharaf, now he is gone, america does not have a base and they need a foothold in the indian continent…..wat better way to plan sumthing like the attack.
blame pakistan, start a war…… get people scared, make money to help america back on its feet.
is the truth not there?
December 3, 2008 at 4:01 pm
Every which way you look for the next few days, Mumbai will be pushed in your face by pairs of ego tripping news presenters, irritating expert pundits who know nothing and of course the staple helping of modern TV, the cowardly droning Politician spouting big talk. To crank up tension between India and Pakistan to the brink of Nuclear War is exactly what the entities behind the scenes in the White House want.
If the people of these two countries do not control their respective leader’s unfounded accusations soon, we can expect border skirmishes and escalation into full blown war. It is worth bearing in mind that both of these countries are a nuclear power.
Here we have another example of the Georgian debacle a few months ago. You can see the same black handed tactics fingerprinted all over the place left by Israeli and American Black Op Agencies.
It is important for people to remember how the MS Media lied to the world on that occasion. On this website from day one we knew Georgia was the aggressor not Russia as was blitzed all over the TV and Press. But it has taken many months until very recently for the MSM to come clean with the truth. Even now they are still vague. The MS Media either hates truth or it scares them. But regarding Georgia, it came to the point where they simply could not lie anymore. The people of South Ossetia were actually there in the flesh, the Media was not.
They were rightly outraged to hear that they were the aggressors when in truth it was Georgian connected entities who did the killing and carried out the massacres. Even as the BBC poured blame on the Russians, stories of horror were emerging from South Ossetia.
Georgian tanks crushing fleeing women and children, grenades tossed into cellars where families hid in terror and other stories like rape and so on that are best not thought about.
The main thing which stemmed from the Georgian chaos was how it was carried out.
Witnesses and survivors alike told us how clinical the operation was. Heavily armed people in combat gear rolled into villages and casually opened fire on defenseless unarmed people. Men, women and children were slaughtered by the invading Special Forces. Russia was asked for help and provided it.
The BBC and other MSM sources eventually tried to slip back into the stinking mire they seem to reside in these days when protests started rolling in. They still will not print or report the true facts. it’s nothing to do with saving face either, it’s all to do with control.
Yet local news sources from the war zone and verified facts would have informed us that amongst the dead executioners were both American and Israeli special forces dressed as Georgian troops. When Russia released that fact and the South Ossetians began to get their stories of horror out, things went pretty quite in the Western Media all of a sudden.
Convenient Lies
The point I am making by bringing these kind of stories to you, is to give you a chance to form your own opinion of the truth by giving you details that our MSM conveniently and often forget.
But to form any opinion of anything, it is always wise to know the other side of the story in order to see the bigger picture.
The very fact that the MS Media suffers from short term amnesia reporting demonstrates that something is being covered up.
In the last slog we discovered that Jewish Hostages were involved in the Mumbai incident. A good reason to think there was more to this story than we are being told. Now as time ticks on and more information from witnesses reaches us, we are hearing some strange stories.
The well armed gunmen were casually dressed like travelers but their rucksacks were full of weapons and ammo instead of clothes and food. They were armed to the teeth and almost identical to the reports from South Ossetia, they casually fired into unsuspecting crowds.
They were very professional too. They split into small groups of twos and threes so while one casually reloaded, there was another still firing to cover him. Terrorists are guerilla fighters and don’t fight with that kind of precision. Special Forces do!
Next we hear how armed Indian police refused to open fire on the gunmen even though people cowering under cover pleaded with them to do something to stop the massacres.
Then we had one Indian official mouthing off lies that one militant was from such a village in Pakistan when in fact the village was actually in India. This man is obviously in on something and will regret his words once the facts are in about this staged managed attack. Hypocrisy too. India herself has militant groups probably more so than Pakistan so do not be surprised by the origin of the attackers.
The rattling of Sabres predicted, is already beginning. India has stepped up to a military War Footing. Pakistan will do the same. Both countries then, will stand on the threshold of something that could easily escalate into a dangerous Nuclear Standoff. A powder keg situation which only needs one spark. Or should we say, a spark like the one we saw in Mumbai.
Expect news of a rash of bombings in both countries flashed across your screen and the term ‘Revenge Attacks’ ringing in your ears.
Suspicion has also arisen about the secretive attitude surrounding the Mumbai Special Forces and who claim to have killed all militants except for one who naturally claims that Pakistan helped train him. Well actually it’s a little more bizarre than that. He claims the Pakistani Navy trained him and his colleagues taught the to sail and swim. I’m sure that any self respecting official armed forces would blatantly and openly train mad militants. All convenient coincidences all the same.
I’m also sure that such highly trained killers who could execute such a mission with so much precision would not openly confess and reveal his groups sources within minutes of being captured. In fact these people would kill themselves first.
Future Leaks
The final part of the puzzle is now coming in to play and the part which prompted me to tell you that there was a lot more to this abnormal story than meets the eye.
Jewish Hostages! If it was not for those words I would not not be writing this slog.
Jewish Hostages! The words should hit you like a sledge hammer. Here we go again. The alleged attackers as far as we know, are still holding hostages in a hotel. The victims are from many nationalities but no details as to where. The only nationality mentioned is once again the hard done to Jew. (The Zionist Jew That Is).
Another thing that fails to gel with me. Hostages? We have always been brainwashed into thinking that Terrorists Kill People. Terror and Fear is the main aim of their propaganda.
Pirates! Now Pirates take hostages as we are seeing now. So why does the Media call them Pirates but the kidnappers in Mumbai Terrorists?
How strange is it that the Jewish Centre, Nariman House which came under attack ordered an unusual amount of food to be delivered only hours before attacks. A lot more than usual. it seems they were expecting a dozen extra guests at the last minute. It has now emerged that the Nariman House Centre has strong Mossad (Israeli Intel/Secret Service) connections.
I’m sure you will have a flash of Psychic inspiration of future news and headlines months before it leaks. The centre will have been used as a safe house and base to launch the Mumbai attacks. That’s why the attackers seem to have appeared from nowhere. News clips parade a small boat that was found abandoned to back up the Pakistani Navy Training Story. When I say small, I mean not large enough to hold more than a dozen men safely. It was more dinghy than boat.
Those of you here can see through the illusion. You have the wisdom to smile and shake your head in disbelief at the comics they try to pass off as newspapers. But what about the blinkered majority who can’t see. The media brainwashed zombies?
Turning Brother Against Brother
In one nation we have Indian folk who being led to believe they have been attacked by an old enemy or at least, factions of the Pakistani Government.
Across the border, we have Pakistani folk who are angry and outraged for being accused of something they did not do by their ancient enemy.
To stir these two ingredients together is to stir up old tensions it has taken so long to pacify. Ancient peoples maybe, but spears and arrows have been replaced with Nuclear Weapons. As mentioned last time, watch carefully. If American statesmen step in and begin to arm India against Pakistan, the world should realize that we have caught the real instigators Red Handed. We have caught them shit stirring with their pants down and the world can witness for itself.
Every person caught with blood on their hands should be arrested and tried for War Crimes. That means right up to Presidents and Prime Ministers, or at least those criminals pretending and posing to be such. It would send a clear and chilling message to their Elite masters once and forever.
In the meantime as tension grows and the media pumps up the fear and tension threshold about Nuclear War, switch off. Realize what a useless thing the media has become.
Use your wisdom. The entities manipulating the dying US giant superpower are desperate for that Afghani Pipeline to progress. Pakistan has now become an integral part of that plan because the Elite Masters of the Universe have failed elsewhere like Iraq, Georgia and other countries you don’t even know about. Russia have them by negotiation while America has bogged themselves down in two wars, soon to be three, Pakistan and then four, Iran.
Sabre Rattling yes, Nuclear War No! The Shadow Elite could not allow such a thing.
A nuclear war in the area would devastate any chances of building pipelines or plundering resources for generations.
It would also create a MAD situation to defeat the whole point. MAD is their term for Mutually Assured Destruction. A no win situation for either side except total devastation of each other.
Barky nOchange, the man of No Change, knows more cannon fodder is needed for the wars that are being instigated by his paymasters. That is why this man from Kenya is already scaring Americans with his Hitler Youth Scheme. He also wants the Reserves as well as his Civilian army? to integrate more with the main forces. However, it shows us that it’s a troops on the ground war rather than a Nuke one.
The Barky O honeymoon with the American people is coming to a rapid end before he’s even in the White House. He recently stunned crowds at a rally when asked exactly what the change was. “Me” he replied “I am the Change!”
Holy Messiah Batman, we’re in the Holybama Sh*t!
I said I did not care for this entity from the moment I set eyes on him. I will enforce that opinion here and now. This is the man who can take America down from a Superpower to a basket case banana republic. Dubya tried it but wasn’t a sharp enough tool.
Please remember that he is not yet officially in power and a lot of water must pass under the bridge until that moment in time. You could say America’s fate now hangs in the balance. You should also remember that a battle for power is taking place outside of the public domain.
Needless to say, there are dangerous game scenarios being acted out. Games that could wrong. What if tensions got out of hand to a point where India and Pakistan squared up to each other and told everybody else to back off and mind their own business?
It is still hard to accept that the Elite never have a back up plan. They assume everything will go to plan and everyone will react exactly the way they want it to. As we have seen in the Middle East, this line of arrogant thought seems to be letting them down.
American Enigma
Whether you love or hate America, whatever the outcome there will affect the majority of the rest world.
I have seen much strangeness in my life. Some things which cannot be explained yet or perhaps never will. But what I see now concerning America is probably the biggest enigma of them all. Especially the speed of events.
I’m sure many here reading this are also surprised at the changing America and are just as gobsmacked at the average American attitude of apathy.
But do not single out the Yanks yet. Do not point the finger of blame in any direction yet. Because if we all wake up and look what is happening at home on our own doorsteps, especially in the UK and Europe, you will see something interesting and unsettling.
The same thing is happening here too. it may not be quite as apparent yet, but it will be in 2009.
When I first noticed the rapid acceleration of decline, I knew two things. One, events were being manipulated. Two, The USA and Great Britain are the testing grounds.
USA because it’s a larger society and who would have thought this madness possible compared to the American Dream.
Great Britain because they are not team players and are stubborn regarding the rest of Europe, ID Cards etc. You name it.
Yes, thought the Elite. If we can crack those two countries by breaking the spirit of their peoples, the rest will follow like lambs to the slaughter.
Did any of you wonder why I altered comparison of the Prediction of the falling dollar?
Although the dollar fell, I warned of more woes to come. So when I brought the Prediction forward to this year to prove only half the Prediction had happened. I could no longer measure the Dollar to the British Pound as before because although the Pound was strong and healthy back then, I could see the end of the rainbow. I’m sure you can see it now also. The British Pound is hovering on the same Abyss as the US dollar.
Again we have two different reasons with exactly the same outcome.
Crash the US Dollar to make way for a new currency called the Amero.
Crash the British Pound to make way for a not so new currency called the Euro.
To put it simply for instance. The politicians know the Brits will never freely vote yes to the Euro or becoming fully integrated with it. Just like the Americans don’t like the idea of a North American Union where they become integrated with Mexico and Canada.
Whichever way you look at it, it is a loss of sovereignty for all countries involved.
In fact, the present acting boss of the EU chair is held by another Euro clone. Barrusso I think, but not interested enough to know. Anyhow, he’s a funny looking man wearing an even funnier wig. Now this guy has recently let slip that the UK is considering joining the Euro! Eh! First I’ve heard of such of a thing.
And let me tell you something else that this hair follicle challenged, wig wearing Turd In A Suit said.
He said the only the ones who are important enough are discussing it (Politicians) and only their decision is what matters.
Here again is a master class in arrogance from the Euro clone puppets of the Elite and further evidence that those we elect to change things for the better have a completely different agenda that is totally opposite to the people.
So how do we make people aware of the double talk, double standards of these creatures posing as leaders? Well I have no answer. I suppose we just wait until the crap hits the fan first for a reaction. But bet your sweet Aunt Sally that sooner or later there will a reaction when things begin to get tough with no sign of respite in sight.
To Indians And Pakistanis
To my visitors in India and Pakistan. To those of you relatives here in the UK, circulate this message to both your countries.
“Do not fall for this NWO Elitist trip. They are trying to get you to devastate each other so they can pillage your resources like they are doing in Iraq and Afghanistan.
This man who leads India now is a traitor. He is in the pocket of the US agencies. And if he denies or defends his actions of blowing things out of proportion before the full evidence and proof of his claims are justified, then he is in no state of wisdom or mind to qualify leading a flock of sheep let alone a Nation.
Send a stark and clear message to him and his acolytes. No Proof.. No War.. Your Fired!”
Anyone Indian politician to quick to point a finger at Pakistan before all the proof is in is blatantly a warmongering mouthpiece of the Elite. A few of them will expose themselves during this strange event, they’ve blown it. Next step, arrest them, try them and hang them for attempted instigation of false war and attempted murder of millions.
Tell them Levi sent you.
Finally a little question of wisdom. If the Indian Government insists Pakistani Terrorists are to blame… so immediately put the Military on a war footing with Pakistan the country… Then have not the terrorists won?
Peace – Levi
December 3, 2008 at 5:34 pm
‘Armed police would not fire back. – I wish I’d had a gun, not a camera’
From ANI
London/Mumbai, Nov.29: British daily –The Independent – has revealed how a newspaper photographer took an astonishing picture while hiding inside a train carriage as gunfire erupted all around him.
Sebastian D’Souza, a picture editor at the Mumbai Mirror, whose offices are just opposite the city’s Chhatrapati Shivaji station, heard the gunfire erupt and ran towards the terminus.
“I ran into the first carriage of one of the trains on the platform to try and get a shot but couldn’t get a good angle, so I moved to the second carriage and waited for the gunmen to walk by,” he told The Independent.
“They were shooting from waist height and fired at anything that moved. I briefly had time to take a couple of frames using a telephoto lens. I think they saw me taking photographs but they didn’t seem to care.”
He said the gunmen were terrifyingly professional, making sure at least one of them was able to fire their rifle while the other reloaded.
By the time he managed to capture the killer on camera, D’Souza had already seen two gunmen calmly stroll across the station concourse shooting both civilians and policemen, many of whom, he said, were armed but did not fire back.
“I first saw the gunmen outside the station. With their rucksacks and Western clothes they looked like backpackers, not terrorists, but they were very heavily armed and clearly knew how to use their rifles,” he said.
But what angered D’Souza were the masses of armed police hiding in the area who simply refused to shoot back.
“There were armed policemen hiding all around the station but none of them did anything,” he said.
“At one point, I ran up to them and told them to use their weapons. I said, ‘Shoot them, they’re sitting ducks!’ but they just didn’t shoot back.”
As the gunmen fired at policemen taking cover across the street, D’Souza realised a train was pulling into the station unaware of the horror within.
“I couldn’t believe it. We rushed to the platform and told everyone to head towards the back of the station. Those who were older and couldn’t run, we told them to stay put.”
The militants returned inside the station and headed towards a rear exit towards Chowpatty Beach.
“I told some policemen the gunmen had moved towards the rear of the station but they refused to follow them. What is the point if having policemen with guns if they refuse to use them? I only wish I had a gun rather than a camera,” he said.
http://www.dailyindia.com/show/284306.php
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British newpaper, The Telegraph reports that the attackers took cocaine.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/india/3540964/Mumbai-attacks-Terrorists-took-cocaine-to-stay-awake-during-assault.html
December 3, 2008 at 10:11 pm
Exactly! This world is so inhumain….and no one does anything! all the good people in the world are shoved aside by the media and are replaced by
“fifteen killed by suicide bombing in Iraq”
or “Teen dies of obesity”
Why not focus on the good things this world still has? “puppy saves owner from fire” or “highschool working together to aware people of global warming” no instead the world needs DRAMA! i hate death and i hate how the media blames everything on Islam! U know? Al-Qaida isn’t even following islam, i believe my muslim friend read an ahadeet(is that how u spell it) to me and it said that You cannot start a war and if you get involved in one you are not aloud to kill, women, children, the elderly, the disabled, or anyone else innocent. Plus Al-quidas UN-islamic moves caused all muslims to look bad and now EVERY attack linked in some way to Islam, weather an islamic country borders or the attacker was a NON-PRACTICING(let me say the media never says “non practicing”) muslim, it all gets blamed on Islam. The world needs more good people!
December 3, 2008 at 10:39 pm
Simply Google “Enron pipeline’ and you’ll see why Indian-Pakistani tensions are being fostered. Enron may be long gone but someone still has an interest in the potential profits to be made.
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December 4, 2008 at 6:47 am
NARIMAN HOUSE STORY
BEFORE THE ATTACKS:
The drama started weeks before the terrorist attacks – at a Jewish residential complex
In Mumbai run by the Chabad-Lubavitch ultra-orthodox movement.
From CBC News (Canadian Broadcasting Corporation)
http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2008/11/28/mumbai-attacks.html
“In a telephone interview with CBC News from outside the centre, freelance journalist Arun Asthhana said there are reports that some of the militants had stayed at a guest house there for up to 15 days before the attacks.
“They had a huge mass of ammunition, arms and food there,” Asthhana said.
That some stayed there before the attacks seem no longer in question. Later news reports state that the terrorists came to Nariman House posing as Malaysian students and were given lodging. Why Ultra-orthodox Jews would give lodging to these unknown Malaysian Muslim students is baffling; they could have been ‘terrorists’. After all they did not know them.
However, it is well known that those housing quarters are rented only to religious Jews passing through Mumbai, so much so that the Indian Police wanted to know why they were rented to non-Jews in this instance.
From Times of India
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Mumbai_locals_helped_us_terrorist_tells_cops/articleshow/3774106.cms
“Police are trying to find out how Nariman House rooms were given to non-Jews. Police has taken all the records books of for verification”
Guardian of UK
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/nov/27/mumbai-terror-attacks-terrorism2
“Locals said the owners of Nariman House was a Jewish Israeli family who rented out flats to other religious Jews.”
Food ordered in:
From Mid-Day News (MID-DAY is a 28 year old well respected media establishment in Mumbai):
http://www.mid-day.com/news/2008/nov/281108-Nariman-House-terror-hub.htm
“The role that Nariman House is coming to play in this entire attack drama is puzzling. Last night, residents ordered close to 100 kilograms of meat and other food, enough to feed an army or a bunch of people for twenty days. Shortly thereafter, the ten odd militants moved in, obviously, indicating that the food and meat was ordered, keeping their visit in mind, another cop added.”
DNA INDIA is another well-established, well-known Indian Media house.
They reported:
http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?newsid=1209852
“The terrorists came to Colaba on Wednesday evening,” Mukund Shelke, who runs a grocery shop at Colaba Market, said. “Before barging into Nariman House, they had purchased adequate food to last them at least three days,” he said.
“They had purchased around two crates of chicken and liquor worth Rs25,000 from two shops in Colaba,” another resident Joseph D’Mello said.
Here the quote says that “they” had purchased the food, and from the text, which would be a translation of the eyewitness account, it would suggest that the terrorists did the shopping. But the policeman’s report and quote is more credible because any group of terrorists going to take over a place during a city-wide attack would not stop to do shopping first, selecting meat, and liquor and other items, unless of course they were right at home.
The Attacks Start:
According to a changing and shifting narrative all attackers came in by boats.
Why they did not stay in Mumbai after spending days scouting the place is unknown. That would have made much more sense. Maybe the commanders came in just in time for the operation.
It is now being reported that they landed and split into groups with two men going to the office of the ultra-orthodox Jewish group Chabad-Lubavitch which runs Nariman house. There they supposedly held an unknown number of persons hostage, while killing some.
However, eye-witnesses, and the earliest reports, state that all the men from the boat went straight to the Nariman House complex before dispersing to carry out attacks.
From Mid-Day News
http://www.mid-day.com/news/2008/nov/281108-Nariman-House-terror-hub.htm
“Mumbai: India’s financial capital, Mumbai seems to be going through its longest night for the last two days. Wednesday, 9.40 pm, the affluent south Mumbai was struck by terrorists, at 12 different locations, including the VT station, a hub for all railway trains, to two of the most luxurious hotels, Taj Mahal and Oberoi Trident.
24 hours later, the attention has riveted to these hotels, and a tiny nondescript building, barely a few meters away from the Taj Mahal hotel. Housing a five-storied guest house for Israeli nationals, this building is turning out to be the ‘den’ for the militants.
“I saw 6 to 7 boats coming in on Wednesday evening and about ten people unloaded many bags from these boats and then gradually took them into the building, Nariman House’, Vitthal Tandel, a fisherman in the area said. “The building has many rooms and these are used as guest houses by travelers, largely Israeli residents. None of us know what their names are”, he said.
“Virendra Ghunawat, a television journalist who has been tracking the Nariman House shootout since the time it took place Wednesday night, said even the cops have been cagey about details”.
From the Guardian of UK
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/nov/27/mumbai-terror-attacks-terrorism2
“They came by sea, on a small skiff, and made their way in the dark through the narrow streets of old Colaba to the six-storey apartment building called Nariman House. There they stayed – an unknown number of mystery gunmen who besieged the building from the inside.”
From The New York Times
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/29/world/asia/29tock.html?bl=&ei=5087&en=c7382f26209af6ce&ex=1228194000&pagewanted=all
“When the terrorists landed in front of Mr. Dhanur’s boat, they were just three blocks straight down a narrow lane from Nariman House, a five-storey building housing a Jewish center run by a young Rabbi, Gavriel Holtzberg, and his wife, Rivka, who had moved from New York.
But the attack does not appear to have started there. According to India’s Home Ministry, the first shots were fired at the train station, and soon after that at the Leopold Café.”
The account of eyewitnesses and the earliest reports are very clear. The ‘terrorists’ went into Nariman House. Later reports keep insisting that they ‘stormed’ the house.
What did they look like?
At least some of the terrorists were fair-skinned foreigners.
From the Guardian of UK
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/nov/27/mumbai-terror-attacks-india4
“One police officer who encountered the gunmen as they entered the Jewish centre told the Guardian the attackers were “white””
“I went into the building late last night,” he said. “I got a shock because they were white. I was expecting them to look like us. They fired three shots. I fired 10 back.”
Now, Indians know fair skinned Indians and Pakistanis. They meet them every day, especially in Mumbai, where all the upper class Indians congregate. Indians know foreigners and they call Americans and Europeans “foreigners” or “white”. It is easy for an Indian to tell the difference between a fair skinned Indian or Pakistani and a “foreigner”
Other eyewitnesses at other locations also describe the terrorists as “foreign” or fair skinned.
From the BBC
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/low/south_asia/7752625.stm
Then, the “foreign looking, fair skinned” men, as Mr Mishra remembers them, simply carried on killing.
“They did not look Indian, they looked foreign. One of them, I thought, had blonde hair. The other had a punkish hairstyle. They were neatly dressed,” says Mr Amir.
While at the Nariman House:
Celebrations:
From DNA India
http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?newsid=1209852
“Some residents claimed that the suspects were keeping track of the police’s movements through a television in Nariman House.
“When the news of top police officials getting killed flashed in the television, we heard loud noises from the flat. It seemed they were celebrating,” Anand Raorane, a resident in a building opposite Nariman House, said.”
Some in India claim that the terrorists were targeting some of India’s top anti-terrorist officers, and indeed a number of top officers including Hemant Karare, who were in the process of investigating an explosive case of terrorist activities by army officers and politicians, were killed. It is very strange that these exceptionally experienced men would so easily be killed. Some reports say they were ambushed. It was at the time that the news of these men’s demise was announced that sounds of celebration came from the Chabad office.
The Arrrest of Israeli Security Officer
While the standoff between the security forces and the terrorists in Nariman House was going on an Israeli ‘security officer’ at the Israeli consulate close by was arrested while running to the scene.
From the Jerusalem Post
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1227702378439&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FS
“The security officer at the Israeli consulate in Mumbai was arrested by Indian police as he raced toward the Chabad House last Wednesday after Rabbi Gavriel Holtzberg telephoned to say it was under attack.”
Was this ‘attack’ referring to attack by the terrorists or by security forces? It is not clear as yet. The officer was released from jail a few hours later according to the Jerusalem Post.
Also India continuously refused Israeli offers to help with the crisis:
http://www.zeenews.com/world/2008-11-28/487051news.html
“Jerusalem, Nov 28: India has turned down an offer by Israel to send its Crack Commandos to Mumbai, where a Jewish centre has been taken over in the terrorist attack which have claimed so far over 160 lives, media reports said here.”
The Nanny and the rescue of the two-year old Moshe Holtzberg.
As the standoff progressed, the nanny of the two-year old child of Rabbi Gavriel Holtzberg, Sandra Samuel, came running out with the little boy. Whether he was the subject of a daring rescue or was sent out by his parents is unclear. The dizzying array of reports, many contradicting the others, that describe this incident leaves the question unanswered. Only when police question the nanny would this be resolved.
The number of hostages and terrorists at Nariman:
According to recent police reports there were fifteen terrorists in all who came by boat.
From TIMES ONLINE
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article5265938.ece
“At least five terrorist gunmen might have escaped the carnage in Mumbai and could strike again, it emerged yesterday as a video surfaced showing the capture of the gang’s sole known surviving member.”
“However, a hijacked Indian fishing boat used by the gunmen had equipment for 15 men on board when it was discovered adrift – suggesting that several gunmen could still be at large.”
“Fifteen winter jackets were found, fifteen toothbrushes,” a police source said. “That more terrorists are loose is possible.”
Again there are conflicting reports on the number of terrorists and possible hostages that were in Nariman House. At the end of the seige by security forces, there were six bodies of hostages found. Some reports insist five bodies were found plus two alleged terrorists. This will remain unclear until Indian security personnel who conducted the raid tell their stories.
It would seem from many eyewitness reports and local media that as the standoff continued, there were only two ‘hostages’, the Rabbi and his wife, and the rest were terrorists.
From DNA India
http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?newsid=1209852
“The six terrorists who have made an Israeli family hostage at Nariman House building in Colaba can battle with the security agencies for at least three days without having to worry about food, local residents claimed on Thursday.”
From Yahoo News
http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/20081128/wl_time/08599186266100
“From the vantage point of three Black Cat snipers watching the building, I could see Nariman House’s shattered windows. The couple who own the building are Jewish, giving rise to rumors throughout the day that “Israelis” were somehow involved in the attacks. The other people in the building, including an infant wearing a pink bonnet and green blanket, were held as hostages but released early Thursday.
The last person to leave, a young woman, told authorities that the only remaining hostages were the couple, who had made no sound or movement since the night before. By 5 p.m. they were presumed to be dead, and the Black Cat commandos moved in half an hour later, unleashing a volley of gunshots into the building. By 9:30 p.m. local time, the firing was still going on, and it was not clear whether the four to five suspects inside had been killed or captured. “
India’s elite commando squad would surely have a very good idea about the number of people they were dealing with especially after speaking with the young woman and the nanny.
From Mid-Day News
http://www.mid-day.com/news/2008/nov/281108-Nariman-House-terror-hub.htm
” One of the militants called up a television news channel and voiced his demands today, but, interestingly, when he was asked where are they all holed him, he said at the Israeli owned Nariman House and they are six of them here”, one of the investigating cops said. Since morning, there has been exchange of gun fire has been going on and the militants seem well equipped to counter the cops fire. To top it, they have food and shelter. One wonders if they have the support of the residents, a local Ramrao Shanker said. “
Reports at the end of the seige
Fron the New York Times
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/29/nyregion/29chabad.html?partner=rss&emc=rss&pagewanted=all
“Jewish Center Is Stormed, and 6 Hostages Die”
“Israeli officials and Lubavitch elders confirmed later that six hostages were found dead inside. They were Rabbi Gavriel Holtzberg, 29, of Brooklyn, and his Israeli wife, Rivka, 28, the Lubavitch emissaries in Mumbai who ran Nariman House; another rabbi from Brooklyn who was living in Israel, Leibish Teitelbaum; Bentzion Chroman, an Israeli with dual American citizenship; an unidentified Israeli woman; and another unidentified woman, according to Rabbi Zalman Shmotkin, a Lubavitch spokesman in Brooklyn , and The Associated Press”.
Two unidentified “hostages” were women. But here is a strange co-incidence. A number of reports and eyewitnesses claim that at least one of the attackers was a woman.
FROM INDIA TIMES
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/3775205.cms
“Mystery woman had accompanied terrorists at Cama”
Quote – ““A man and a burqa clad woman entered from the gate opposite our quarters. The man started firing towards the hospital immediately after entering. Moments before, the woman, in a salwar kameez underneath her burqa, had even tried to enter the hospital by climbing a water pipe. As the man continued firing, the woman, who wasn’t armed, knocked on one of the houses”
also
“The shopkeeper’s friend said, “He told me that when he saw Azam’s picture in Mumbai Mirror on Thursday, he realised it was the same youth who had visited his shop with a woman, who was also young. He mentioned they had been like any other youths.”
“Hostages killed by ‘terrorists’ or by security forces in shoot-out?
The Indian security forces thought that the remaining people in the Chabad house with the possible exception of the Rabbi and his wife were terrorists, and they were in a shoot-out with all these people. Yet reports persist that the ‘terrorists’ killed the ‘hostages’, before they were themselves killed. Some say the hostages were killed the day before. Reports also insist that the security forces killed only two terrorists at Chabad House.
However more recent reports say that the Indian security forces may have killed some of the hostages:
From The Jerusalem Post
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1227702371655&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
Haka Head: Indian forces may have killed some hostages:
“The Indian commando raid launched to save the lives of Jewish and Israeli hostages at Mumbai’s Chabad House may have inadvertently ended the lives of one or more of the hostages, the head of a six-man ZAKA team in the terror-stricken Indian city told The Jerusalem Post on Sunday”.
Any Terrorists Remaining?
Police insist that fifteen terrorists came ashore. Nine are dead and one is in custody. Where are the other five? Where is the woman terrorist?
From Times Online:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article5265938.ece
“At least five terrorist gunmen might have escaped the carnage in Mumbai and could strike again, it emerged yesterday as a video surfaced showing the capture of the gang’s sole known surviving member.”
Were the missing five the same persons who were killed at Chabad?
Conclusion – What really happened at Nariman House?
Time may eventually tell what really happen at the Chabad House, Mumbai. Indian security service officers may come forward with further information. More information may dispel rumors and speculation that the Israelis at Chabad house were part of the terrorist operation and that the non-white terrorists, all of whom were killed, with the exception of the poster-boy, Ajmal, were the usual patsies.
It will dispel rumors that the four or five ‘hostages’ killed in the center were actually part of the terrorist group and were killed by security forces in the shootout.
The only person who may be able to give an impartial report of what went on at Nariman House would be the Indian nanny, Sandra Samuel. Indian Intelligence would be looking forward to interviewing her when all the confusion ends and when she recovers from the ordeal. Lets hope that the trauma does not lead her to commit suicide or anything like that.
BREAKING NEWS
Breaking News: Nanny going to Israel
From the Jerusalem Post:
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1227702371988&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
“The nanny who saved two-year-old Moshe Holtzberg from the attack at Mumbai’s Chabad House on Thursday is expected to arrive in Israel on Monday along with the child, his grandparents and the bodies of his parents, Rabbi Gavriel and Rivka Holtzberg.”
“She expressed a desire to accompany Moshe back to Israel on a special flight sent by the Israel Air Force. The toddler was reunited with his Israeli grandparents, Shimon and Yehudit Rosenberg, on Friday.
Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni said on Sunday that her office was working to arrange for Samuel’s arrival in Israel, while the Interior Ministry was considering bestowing upon her the status of “Righteous Gentile,” which would allow her to remain in the country for an extended period of time”.
Breaking: Nanny already in Israel:
From the Indian Express:
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/after-funeral-baby-moshe-leaves-for-israel/392990/
“The orphaned two-year-old baby Moshe and his nanny Sandra Samuel, along with his maternal grandparents, left for Israel tonight in a special Israeli military aircraft from Mumbai.”
BREAKING: Nanny to live in Israel
From The India Telegraph:
http://www.telegraphindia.com/1081202/jsp/nation/story_10193938.jsp
ISRAEL HOME FOR MOSHE NANNY
“Dec. 1: Israel is planning to issue an immigration permit to the Indian nanny who saved two-year-old Moshe Holtzberg while his Jewish parents died in the Nariman House attack.
Foreign minister Tzipi Livni told the cabinet yesterday that her ministry was working to grant the nanny, Sandra Samuel, a residency permit so she could live there.”
Sandra Samuel has made an absolutely amazing and admirable choice, to leave her own family and relatives and go to live in israel with baby Moshe.
To continue with the conclusion:
This terrorist incident will most likely lead to much greater bloodshed unless the true culprits are found and convicted in a court of law. Some analysts say that this event could lead to a new world war.
It would just make plain sense to have kept the nanny in India for a while. India should demand her return soon, so that she could help with the investigation.
Again, to further dispel the rumors of the dead Israelis being part of the operation, autopsies would be conducted on the bodies of the dead including the Israelis at Nariman House. Autopsies would give vital clues as to their role as victims or perpetrators. Forensic science is powerful science today. For example, gunpowder residue on fingers tells a tale.
Lets see what comes of it.
MORE BREAKING NEWS….
BREAKING NEWS
NO AUTOPSIES ON ISRAELI BODIES.
From: The India Telegraph
http://www.telegraphindia.com/1081202/jsp/nation/story_10193938.jsp
“Israel has requested India not to conduct post-mortems on its nationals killed in the Nariman House siege, citing what it said were “privacy and religious reasons”.
“The request for not doing the post-mortem is based on privacy as well as some religious reasons,” an official of the Israeli embassy here said. According to the information with the mission, seven of the nine killed in the attack were Israeli nationals, all of them Jews.”
To continue with the conclusion
Indian journalists are urged to dig into this story with their very lives, because the life of our nation is at stake. India could be dragged into a game on the grand chessboard, and possibly into war with Pakistan and then China, and maybe Russia. In the end there will be only one winner, the superpower which is on the verge of economic collapse, and which can avert complete disaster only by destroying its main competitors, or getting them to destroy themselves.
PS:
The whole Mumbai operation was messy, and if Indian Intelligence agents are really doing their job, there will be need for major distractions very soon. Look out for another attack.
December 4, 2008 at 7:44 am
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December 4, 2008 at 7:54 am
IT WAS LIKE 9/11 MAKING RESONS TO ATTACK AND DISTROY THE MUSLIMS AND CAPTUR WHAT EVER THE PART OF WORLD THEY NEED.PAKISTANI NATION WONT LET DOWN WE WILL FIGHT TILL LAST DROP OF BLOOD.GOD KNOW WHO DID THAT AND WHAT THEY WANT.WE NEVER WANTED TO BE IN WAR BUT IF INDIA THINKS WE ARE READY.
December 4, 2008 at 11:58 am
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December 4, 2008 at 1:45 pm
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December 4, 2008 at 3:38 pm
The Mumbai Tragedy or Conspiracy
1. Australia knew about this attack two weeks before and issued travel warnings accordingly. Why India knew nothing about it?
2. Indian Maritimes Union knew about “guns and weapons were unloaded”. Why Indian Security knew noting about it?
3. Why was the intelligence chief (who was a prime target of extremist Hindus) killed so easily? Was it an in-house job?
4. Why were current and ex Mossad agents meeting with Hindu “shadus” earlier as reported in Mumbai Urdu papers?
5. Many Indian officials including state and national ministers are resigning due to bungling in the handling of this incident.
Pakistani Involvement Probability
Right now Pakistani Prime Minister and President are not capable to sleep peacefully in their own quarters as demonstrated by Marriott and other bombings. It would be stupid for the Pakistan government to be involved in anything like this madness and the Pakistan government has got nothing to gain out of this.
Indian Muslim or Kashmiri Gain
The way whole things played out suggesting me to believe that the Kashmiri or other Indian Muslim groups got nothing to gain out of this tragedy.
December 4, 2008 at 9:55 pm
Thankfully, a majority of the things that get major media attention, I did not know anyone there. But one of my friends was in the San Diego fires last year, and had to drive to a few different camps to evade the fires. She did not sleep for 40- hours, and many times we could not get contact her.
And I do know a friend in Mumbai. She is a nurse, and last we heard, she was still alive and “safe.” But it is very different seeing the news when you know someone there.
Please pray for people who are there, and pray for the families and friends who are waiting to hear news.
http://conversationswithjesus.wordpress.com/
December 5, 2008 at 12:27 am
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December 5, 2008 at 3:23 am
This world is going crazy. I never for once believe in the story when it came out. It’s all conspiracies against the greatest religion of Islam. No matter what their mouth says, Allah would perfect His religion even if infidels hate it. However, as we condem the killings of innocents in Mumbai, we must also condem the killings and occupations of Muslims lands occupied by narrow-minded countries that believe they better than others. Over one (1) million Iraqis have died in the name of freedom and democracy. Isnt that terrorism too?. This mumbai terrorism is another crazy way to wage war on Muslims in Pakistan. No matter what they do, Allah already perfected His Islam. All praise is due to Allah who has no partners.
December 5, 2008 at 6:35 am
The horrible carnage in Mumbai is sending depressing messages about the realities of the present age of terror.
I lived about a mile from the Taj. I worked for an engineering firm and freelanced as a copywriter for advertising agencies in Mumbai. Every time I got a new gig, I would celebrate by going to the Taj for a buffet or a breakfast.
For a 23 year old, it was a thrill to be able to afford the atmosphere of the Taj. To me it was a place where aspirations found their destination. In those days, my wife to be was also a management trainee at the Taj. We met later however. For both of us the Taj embodied the memories of youthful excitement and hopeful beginnings.
Now those memories have forever been clouded by the madness that raged this past week.
We pray for those who have lost family members and wish the city back to its glamorous best.
The horrible carnage in Mumbai is sending depressing messages about the realities of the present age of terror. The first message is from the terrorists – “we have no moral conscience; in our pursuit of what we think is justice we will not balk from any form of evil that one can imagine”. The horror of this message is compounded by the daring and the spectacular fashion in which the operation was carried out. The terrorists are determined, brazen, motivated and were in middle school when 9/11 happened!
The second reality is a verdict on the complete and utter failure of the wars on terror that the U.S. and its allies have been waging since 2001. If this is what the terrorists are capable of after being incessantly hounded by the world’s major powers, then we should be preparing for a bleak future indeed.
The wars on terror that are being waged in South Asia have caused too many innocent deaths. The “targeted strikes” by the U.S. have killed hundreds of civilians in South Asia in the past few months. Many people are being tortured by law enforcement agencies. People have lost families, homes and businesses in riots by murderous gangs often protected by the government. And governments continue to avoid addressing root causes such as Palestine and Kashmir.
Increasingly abuse of Islam, its values, its history and its symbols is being used as a weapon in the war on terror and this too continues to win more recruits for the extremists. All the above in conjunction with religious extremism contribute to more egregious forms of terror.
This is a wakeup call. There must be a significant rethinking in how we confront the challenge of terrorism. Current strategies have generally failed but for a few successes. The Saudis for example, have succeeded in reducing terror inside Saudi Arabia through dialogue and re-education of youth. In Iraq the U.S. won over the Iraqis – the so called sons of Iraq — who had joined Al Qaeda through dialogue and political and monetary incentives. Why can’t the same creative approach be brought to South Asia?
In India even those who combat hate are often consumed by hate. Pragmatism evaporates when hatred reigns. But the U.S. and NATO can try an alternative to their current failed approach.
The final question this carnage poses is to all Indians – Muslims and Hindus alike. What kind of India do they want? India is on the verge of a historical breakthrough. At its current rate of growth it will soon be a developed nation and a major world power. But in order to sustain the growth it needs internal stability. Without internal stability it will become a land of contradictions, always on the verge but never really there.
India will need to improve its ability to deal with terrorist threats. Intelligence gathering and operational performance are not on par with the threats it faces. It must also work to restore the faith of Indian Muslims in the state so that they work with it rather than against it. If another riot in which thousands of Muslims are slaughtered, as they were in Mumbai in 1992-93 and in Gujarat 2002, is allowed by the government then needless to say there will be more alienation and more radicalization of Indian Muslims and the problems will only grow.
Finally, India must find the way to work with Pakistan without resorting to another war that will only make matters worse. Rejecting outright President-Elect Obama’s recent offer to send President Clinton as a mediator to resolve the Kashmir conflict is not a commitment to peace. India is eager for U.S. support and intervention in every other matter, why not in the case of Kashmir?
December 5, 2008 at 8:24 am
While india blames Pakistan about the terrorist attacks in mumbai, it is doing the same in bangladesh. fascist India is supporting the hindu terrorists in bangladesh, in order to divide bangladesh into two parts. Here is the detail.
http://www.bangabhumi.blogspot.com
Fascist India should either stop supporting the hindu terrorists in bangladesh or stop blaming pakistan for its hand in mumbai attacks. Fascist India cannot have its “Gandhi cake” and eat it as well.
December 5, 2008 at 8:25 am
In response to those who thinks “The ‘Hindu thread’ on the terrorist’s wrist does not imply that this was sponsored by Hindu terrorist group!!!! The fidayeen’s would want us to believe this and would have tied this around their wrist to mislead everybody.”, all I would like to say is
1. Hindu thread around wrist to mislead everybody :: SO VERY SMART
2. Leaving GPS on boat with route location to Karachi :: SO VERY DUMB
I don’t see the mastermind of a terrorist organazation doing two brilliantly smart and dumb things together…
December 5, 2008 at 12:56 pm
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December 6, 2008 at 9:04 am
Read it and spread it out….very improtant
Thursday, 27 November 2008
GAUTAM ADHIKARI SPEAK UP… DO SOMETHING…SAY OPENLY THAT THE RSS-MOSSAD ARE RESPONSIBLE–OTHERWIS E BE DAMNED AND CONSIDER THE NATION DOOMED. THEY KILLED KARKARE TO SEND A MESSAGE THAT YOU CANNOT INVESTIGATE THE MOSSAD-RSS ANGLE.
Mumbai The Mossad Angle
Mumbai and India Under Attack
It is 4AM in India right now. I am in Mumbai reporting from the ground. I have not slept a wink. Mumbai is under attack. People and forces who killed Mahatama Gandhi, who demolished the Babari Mosque have triumphed. More than 16 groups of terrorists have taken over Taj, Oberai and several hotels. Hundreds of people are dead. For the first time no one is blaming Muslim organizations. The Mumbai ATS chief Hemant Karkare and other officers of the ATS have been killed. These were the same people who were investigating the Malegaon Blasts–in which Praggya Singh, an army officer and several other noted personalities of the BJP-RSS-Bajrang Dal-VHP were arrested. Karkare was the man to arrest them. Karkare was receiving threats from several quarters. LK Advani, the BJP chief and several other prominent leaders of the so-called Hindu terrorism squad were gunning for his head. And the first casualty in the terrorist attack was Karkare! He is dead–gone–the firing by terrorists began from Nariman House–which is the only building in Mumbai inhabited by Jews. Some Hindu Gujaratis of the Nariman area spoke live on several TV channels–they openly said that the firing by terrorists began from Nariman house. And that for two years suspicious activities were going on in this house. But no one took notice.
Our worst fears have come true. It is clear that Mossad is involved in the whole affair. An entire city has been attacked by Mossad and probably units of mercenaries. It is not possible for one single organization to plan and execute such a sophisticated operation. It is clear that this operation was backed by communal forces from within the Indian State. The Home Minister Shivraj Patil should resign. The RSS-BJP-VHP- Bajrang Dal should be banned. Advani and others ought to be arrested. Today is a day of shame for all Indians and all Hindus. Muslims and secular Hindus have been proven right. RSS type forces and Israel are all involved in not only destabilizing but finishing India. India should immediately snap all relations with Israel. We owe this much to Karkare and the brave ATS men who had shown the courage to arrest Praggya Singh, Raj Kumar Purohit, the army officer and several others.
A photograph publushed in Urdu Times, Mumbai, clearly shows that Mossad and ex-Mossad men came to India and met Sadhus and other pro-Hindutva elements recently. A conspiracy was clearly hatched.
This is a moment of reckoning especially for Hindus of India. The killers of Gandhi have struck again. If we are true Sanatanis and true Hindus and true nationalists and true patriots we have to see this act as a clear attack by anti-national deshdrohi forces. Praggya Singh, Advani and the entire brand is anti-national. They ought to be shot. Any Hindu siding with them is hereafter warned of serious consequences.
This is a question of nationalism. If no one else, the Indian army will not take this lying down. Communal, anti-national forces have attacked the very foundation of the Indian constitution and the nation. We will fight a civil war if need be against the pro-Hindutva, communal forces and their Israeli backers.
Amaresh Misra
91-9250305699
December 6, 2008 at 4:06 pm
RONNIE PATEL’S: BLOG AT WORDPRESS.COM. | THEME: PRESSROW BY CHRIS PEARSON
Sifting through the plethora of comments and conjectures of the little or ill informed, yet of the stirred and impassioned, made convenient by the technology of the internet, I am amused at their vituperations lacking in much cogency, and largely disappointed by many absurdities or brazen incitements, be they from reporters firing from the hips, or self appointed pundits of world affairs. For whatever reason, though probably mostly fear, almost all the commentators have chosen to use pseudonyms or half names, but , although disagreeing with his postulations, I salute Amaresh Misra who, beyond his name has also given his phone number. I hope he has not been much bothered by cranks!
In the old days they would be huddled groups venting in the maidans with little or no access to the responsible reporters of the press, leave alone the wider world; or sit as parlour politicians in their salons or drawing-rooms, waffling ad infinitum, ineffectively. Now, equally ineffectively, they whistle off-key in the cyber wind thinking they are making stirring music for bothered souls.
The days of machiavellian plots and conspiracies are at an end in the fast globalising world, and the leaders of nations are all of convergent thought despite the illusion to the contrary, at times. A more lateral than hierarchical world order is in the offing and instead of fanning the flames of suspicion and hatred, pointing fingers of loose allegations and accusations, we would do wisely by letting the elected and appointed authorities and institutions perform their duties without hindrance and get on with their job.
Far placed as I am from all the facts, I am withholding my conjectures about the Bombay Taj tragedy, as on any other terrorist attack anywhere in the world, because I firmly believe that opinions are formed when one has stopped thinking.
Ronnie Patel Estonia
Saturday, 06 December 2008
December 6, 2008 at 5:26 pm
There is a concerted effort on behalf of RSS, Shiv Sena, BJP and many Hinduvatids to (1) reverse the clock of 1947 so that Bangladesh (then East Pakistan) could become part of India, or (2) to at least make Bangladesh a ‘total dependent’ on India. The bottom line is to destabilize Bangladesh so that it can be weakened severely. In order to fulfill the strategic vision, pro-Indian groups like HRCBM and mukto-mona Hindus, led by a Hinud professor – Dr. Roy of HRCBM and his son, Avijit Roy of Mukto-mona, have been launching a very concerted campaign to smear Bangladesh’s secular image. The example below is sufficient to demonstrate this. E.g., even when a family feud in which a relative Hindu is behind the killing of a Nazirhat College lecturer murder, it is painted as if Muslim Bangladeshis are on a calculated plan to cleanse Bangladesh of Hindus.
In the last few years, India has been destabilizing Bangladesh by arming tribals in north-east and south-east corners of Bangladesh. The BSF have killed hundreds of Muslim peasants on the Bangladesh side without any provocation. In the name of curbing Muslim extremist intrusion into India, Indian security forces routinely target Muslim population enclaves throughout India.
Bangladesh has no plan or agenda towards ethnic cleansing, nor has any ambition to destabilize India.
Regards,
A Bangladeshi concerned nagorick.
December 7, 2008 at 6:15 am
[...] Have a look at the above picture of one of the terrorists. [Another angle] [...]
December 7, 2008 at 4:25 pm
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=CJwiZSPMB-U&feature=related
Please click and hear a terrorist speaking to Indian Media. Seems to be home grown. His accent is definitely not Pakistani Punjabi as he extensively uses Hindi words and says clearly he is from India!!
December 7, 2008 at 6:02 pm
[...] India in forcing Musharraf to cede to Indian demands. India has once again manufactured 9/11 like drama in Mumbai to extract further concessions from Pakistan which are the ultimate of Indo-US-Israeli sinister [...]
December 7, 2008 at 9:47 pm
[...] said that the attackers wore saffron Hindu Zionist bands, which no Muslim would tie. Hamid also said that within the first 5 minutes of the attack, the [...]
December 8, 2008 at 1:21 am
1. Perhaps the men wore these orange armbands to avoid attention leading up to the attacks? Or to promote exactly the sort of misidentification this website seems to have made.
2. It is certainly not unheard of for a ‘Mujahid’ to indulge in liquor. The 9/11 terrorists, for example, drank alcohol and even visited a strip club before their ‘martyrdom’.
3. Basically the Muslim world needs to own up to the undesirable, extremist elements within it and stop looking elsewhere for the source of its ills and problems. Get your house in order.
December 8, 2008 at 6:23 am
Hi there,
I am a Muslim and I am against acusing any Muslim withot any evidence, but fromthe picture, I don’t think this man is one of the terrorists, he is hindo policeman, the terrorists was inside the buildings not on the street, this is a policeman, or civil defense or something.
Thanks
December 8, 2008 at 8:26 am
Today is the third day, the case of Hoax Call (http://pakalert.wordpress.com/2008/12/06/hoax-india-call-put-pakistan-on-high-alert/) is being discussed all over, specially on the electronic media. Open your TV any time and you find explanations and theories, some appealing and some absurd. There are other dimensions also, which may appeal some:-
1. Undoubtedly, it was made from Indian Foreign Office by no other than Parnab Mukherjee. It is part of psy-war tactics to keep us under pressure and tied to indian influence.
2. The operation against Pakistan started after 9/11 is now in the culminating stage, designed and operated under troika of US-Israel-India. The likely impending air operation is expected to be joint air strike by Israel and India to add precision to the swift attack. Moreover, Pakistan Air power will be forced to divide the effort on two assaulting powers. At all time, US will pose neutral but keep monitoring our only friend China with the warning that Chinese intrusion will turn it into start of WW-3. Let us not be in doubt that US high tech intelligence has started plotting all our moves by army, air force, navy and even nuke positioning if any. These informations are available to Israel and India to plan and midify their move.
3. By making hoax call in the late hours, our enemies wanted to assess our reaction time to get fully alert and operative. This they have done. This call has also exposed the IQ and responsive reflexes of our decision makers.
4. By this hoax call, they have been able to chart the chain and sequence of our reaction mechanism. By doing so they will be able to pin-point the weak link of the chain which if compromised our reaction time can be delayed or made ineffective.
5. Lastly, by this hoax call the decision makers of Pakistan will remain mentally occupied for unexpected moves which in military parlance called “achieving surprise”, which is one of the major factor of attack.
Best regards
Daood Husnain, Lt Col (Rtd)
December 8, 2008 at 10:23 am
For the past many months, the world’s eyes were focused towards the horrendous developing situation in India, wherein a serving Lieutenant General was charged guilty of massacre against both Hindus and Muslims in the “Samjhauta (Friendship) Express”
train in which countless people were burnt alive in their cottages before reaching Pakistan from India. . His name was Lt. Col. Purohit, who was later on reported to have also supplied RDX chemical explosives to Hindu extremists to carry out their attacks.
But then after a few days, suddenly there appear ten “Pakistani” individuals (mostly young) who run about the vicinity of Mumbai wreaking havoc and carnage wherever they go. The Indian media, though know for its objective and straightforward reporting, for the first time showing irresponsibility pointed the finger straight towards Pakistan and its nationals. This has never happened before.
Some of the notable events and occurrences that are indeed questionable during all these tensions include:
* How did “people who sailed from Karachi” come to know about the exact whereabouts of the city and especially the layout of the hotel premises? Employees of the Taj Hotel have said that the way in which the terrorists rioted through the whole building was amazing. One of them even said that “They know the place better than us or for that matter, even the Manager himself!”
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* Pictures of one of the attackers in a black T-shirt and grey jeans have been spread over the internet. Even the Associated Press managed to capture a picture, which also clearly shows that the attacker had been wearing an orange-colored male bangle in his left arm. Many Hindu religious sources including Wikipedia clearly say that such bangles are worn by far-right Hindus (too conservative) on their right arms (by males) and left arms (by females).. Similar orange bangles were also worn by Hindu extremists when they were openly slaughtering Muslims in Gujarat and Christians in Orissa. Some religious sources say that the wearing of these bangles signify the “good-luck charm for the fulfillment of any religious undertaking”. Sort of like a “Hindu jihad”, if I were to basically put it that way. The question is: Why would a “fundamentalist Muslim” who is willing to “wage war against the infidels” wear a bangle that purely represents extremist Hindu ideology and beliefs?
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* Immediately reports came in the Indian media that the “Deccan Mujahideen” claimed responsibility for the attacks”. If that were the case, then we all know that Deccan is the provincial capital of Hyderabad, not the Hyderabad in Pakistan but the one in India! Furthermore, authentic investigative and intelligence-briefed findings show that there is no such “jihadi” organization by this name, which furthermore proves that this was another hoax.
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* One Indian channel went as far as broadcasting “real time videos” of a particular “Rehman chacha” (Rehman uncle) hailing from Faridkot district, Pakistan. Reportedly, the attackers had called him from their SIMs and taken further instructions… This is indeed appaludable, for one of the largest news channels in Pakistan, Express News, did extensive thorough findings in search of this person and found out there wasn’t anyone with such a name who ever belonged to Faridkot.
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* The Indian Govt. then again changed her statement and said it was a particular “Amir Jamal” from Faridkot. Again, the Express News team went on research and found out that this very man had died 3 years ago! His own kin related the event to the news team.
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* And again… now the Indian Govt. says it was a particular “Amir Kasab”… we’ll see what develops regarding another sham like this.
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* Some sources revealed on Pakistani media that they were “surprised” at they themselves not knowing of the fact that during all the tragedy in Mumbai, the Jewish settlement at ‘Nariman House’ was also loaded with MI5, Mossad and FBI agents. Furthermore, a handful of CIA agents were also among those dead at the Taj Hotel and were also present at the Oberoi Palace. As we move on, we came to know that the international Jewish terror organization “Chabad Lubavitch”, was also based at Nariman House. The question is: What were the reasons and circumstances under which agents of the MI5, Mossad, FBI, CIA and Chabad Lubavitch were resident in India? Are the Israelis who lived there in that much need of security?
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* The next day, the beneficiaries of all these events, the Hindu right-wing extremist parties such as the BJP, RSS, Vishwa Prashad, etc. get more active in fostering anti-Pakistan, anti-Muslim sentiments among Hindu nationals. The BJP (Bharatiya Janata Party) played the forefront role, it even had highly-sentimental nationalistic and anti-Pakistan, anti-Muslim statements and banners printed in various leading Indian newspapers and magazines. All this seems to have benefited them a lot. Obviously, the Indian media and the Global Eye before was focused towards some of their members infiltrating the Indian Army’s hierarchy and infusing racist ideologies in them. They got the perfect chance to “turn the tables over”.
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* India pinpointed names of 3 terrorists to the Pakistan Govt. The names were of “Tiger” Memon (Mushtaq Abdur Razzaq Memon), Daud Ibrahim and Mas’oud Azhar. The former two are themselves Indian nationals, it is senseless to claim that they “perpetrated these acts from Pakistan” when the ISI and Govt. have repeatedly said they are not here. Mas’oud Azhar is a religious activist from Bahawalpur who is accredited for the establishment of the jihadi organization “Jaish e Muhammad”.
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* The American Govt. then, as expected, showed sympathy for the Indian Govt. and has recently sent a list of “terrorists” to be reviewed and approved by the U.N. Security Council. Among the names are 4 of the top-ranking former Director Generals of the ISI (Pakistan). And most notable among them is Lt. Gen. (R) Hameed Gul. The purpose and intent is obvious: The Zionists and Neocons in the American Govt. along with their Hindu counterparts want to corner and malign Pakistan’s ISI (Inter-Services Intelligence) from all sides. In a half-hour exclusive interview to Geo News’ program “Crisis Cell” dated Nov. 4, 2008, Hameed Gul said that the reason the American Govt. and India is behind him is because he always spoke out in advance about the recent upcoming plans of Zionists and Indian Govt. against Pakistan. The question: Hameed Gul was a good friend of Milt Bearden of CIA and had good communication with the American Govt. (in cooperative terms) during his serving tenure, then why is he being blamed also? I hint its because of him being a devoted Muslim who believes in the policies of “true Islamic jihad” and who is known to be quite indulged in religion. He is known to support the just and true Islamic government that was just being formed by the genuine Taliban before it got purposely and timingly demolished by the U.S. Hameed Gul has also repeatedly spoken in detail about the various covert/overt plots that India’s R.A.W. and Israel’s Mossad are churning up in collaboration with each other. Is this a plot to silence him up?
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* Now during all this mayhem, the Zionists wage their propaganda in line with what they used to threaten the Iranian Govt. Issues are being raised whether Pakistan’s nuclear assets are safe or not. To this, one of Pakistan’s top nuclear scientists, Dr. Samar Mubarakmand, replied that indeed Pakistan’s assets are 100% safe by the Grace of Allah and can never be detonated accidentally, as they are protected by a very complex secret code. This shows how the Indian Govt. and the American Zionists are propagandizing against Pakistan.
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* On December 5, 2008, Russia and India signed a “Joint Nuclear Cooperation Treaty”. PM Manmohan Singh of India had this to say (basic excerpts):
“Russia and India will work together to bring forth an International Order… we shall work together in (nuclear) research and development”
Indian Media reported the first of these steps involved Russia setting-up a nuclear power plant in Tamil Nadu.
One wonders: Why all this now? Was it pre-planned? It seems so. But we still don’t know.
One thing we are sure of is that this time, for real and directly head-on, the Zionists en par with their Indian counterparts including Israelis at the background are very desperate to malign, destabilize and eventually ‘abolish’ the ISI. Which, Insha’Allah, they never can.
December 8, 2008 at 11:21 am
Did you know that over the past 14 years 54,969 Indians have been killed by Indian militants? Incredible. That translates into roughly 4,000 Indians getting killed per year by India’s own militant entities. Did you know that of the 608 districts in India at least 231 districts are “currently afflicted, at differing intensities, by various insurgent and terrorist movements?” Incredible. And, that translates into roughly 40 per cent of the entire country being afflicted with some kind of militancy.
Did you know that RDX that killed 68 Samjhauta Express passengers was stolen from the Indian army by Indian army’s Lt-Col Shrikant Purohit (RDX is explosive nitroamine used by militaries around the world)? Incredible. In 1985, National Security Guards or ‘Black Cats’ was formed to respond to terrorist activities. Do you know where the ‘Black Cats’ were on the night of November 26? Well, Black Cats were on VIP security duties. Sounds just like Pakistan, doesn’t it? Guess who was arrested by India’s Anti-Terror Squad (ATS) after a series of bomb blasts that killed 37 people in Malegaon (290 kilometres from Mumbai). It was Indian army’s Lt Col Purohit. Do you know that the Students Islamic Movement of India (SIMI) had accepted responsibility for the 2008 Ahmedabad bombing, the 2008 Japipur bombing and the 2008 Delhi bombing?
Clearly, the incidence of corruption within the Indian army is high. Clearly, the Intelligence Bureau (IB) is in a coma, RAW was caught snoring, the Joint Intelligence Committee has been caught sleeping and the Joint Cipher Bureau was nabbed napping.
Did you know that India suffers a $100 billion trade deficit? Did you know that this year the Bombay Stock Exchange has come down from 21,000 points to around 8,000; a loss of 60 per cent? Did you know that India is heavily dependent on foreign direct investment (FDI) to fill its external deficit?
These are all facts. Three more facts: one, the Indian State of Mizoram goes to polls on December 2. Two, the Indian State of Rajasthan goes to polls on December 4. Three, India must call general elections by April 2009. Now let us move to perceptions. The overwhelming perception, not just in India but around the world, is that there was some Pakistani connection to the Mumbai tragedy. The Indian National Congress (INC) has a serious political need to retaliate. And, India’s national security apparatus would want to make sure that the Mumbai mishap is not repeated. At the same time, it is not in the interest of America’s ‘war on terror’ that Pakistan’s attention is diverted from FATA to the eastern border.
Intelligence Bureau (IB), India’s internal intelligence agency, has already identified 270 home-grown militant entities operating within India. India’s militants are out of control. So are Pakistan’s.
The Indian army has absolutely no surgical strike capability and a very limited inventory of infrared-guided or laser-guided ’smart bombs’ or precision guided munitions. Introducing combat projectiles (BM-30 Smerchs with a firing range of 90km, for instance), heavy munitions, BrahMos cruise missiles (from Brahmaputra of India and Moskva river of Russia) or Indian Air Force’s (IAF) Jaguar IS, MiG-27s or Sukhoi Su-30s, ground attack aircraft, would achieve no national security objective — and may in effect prove counterproductive. The INC is therefore using the US to pressurise Pakistan into producing substance that is politically sellable to voters in Delhi. The Pakistan army is already heavily burdened by battles in Bajaur, Swat, FATA and frequent drone attacks. Can it realistically afford to open up additional fronts?
Why is there a global perception that there was some Pakistani connection to the Mumbai tragedy? We must indeed be doing something wrong. Ronald Reagan used jihadis to defeat Russia. George Bush used the Northern Alliance to bring down the Taliban. India uses the Balochistan Liberation Army and the Baloch Students Organisation.
Jay
December 8, 2008 at 11:51 am
If (Allah forbid), American Military think-tanks study “Asia 2025″ had its way, India’s most cherished dream, to emerge as a superpower, could become a reality in near future. But in my opinion, Allah is best of the planner and Pakistan is destined to be one of the greatest nation in this world. We only need some good and brave steps and any selfless leadership can steer us out of this mess; Pakistan never lacked in this aspect and I am certain that the present leadership, both political and military, are capable of dealing with these threats and leading this nation to the path of glory. We need to remain positive, stay united and everything is going to be all right. “United we rise, Divided we fall”.
Some of our commentators have the tendency of underestimating us and they forget the milestones this great nation has achieved despite all odds. Just look at the status Pakistan was, at the time of its inception. We did not even have the paper pins for filling in our offices but within 50 years we had the most sophisticated weapon system in this world including nuclear.
No doubt, the current situation is far from good with USA violating Pakistan territorial sovereignty, by routine bombing of our tribal areas, and India threatening to have similar strikes on our eastern border. How come India has gathered courage to threaten us; in my opinion, the only reason is that the Pakistani government policy of tolerating USA’s actions in tribal areas and “officially” condemning the USA for aerial bombardments but “unofficially” endorsing the air strikes. This policy needs to be changed and we need to declare and show the world that any future violence will be dealt with severely and all means possible. Let there be no doubt that Pakistani population will not tolerate any Indian surgical strikes, and if carried out and “officially” condemned by our Government will lead to riots on the roads.
This latest provocation (Mumbai Drama) was organized and planned on Indian soil by USA-India nexus in order to achieve two objectives: to sabotage the Kashmiri freedom movement and to make USA look like a peace negotiator between India and Pakistan and in return asking Pakistan military to keep its forces in the tribal area. This will serve USA two purposes: if the Pakistan Army continue fighting its own people in tribal areas than the hatred for Pakistan Army will grew within large segment of Pakistani populace and if not, then they can achieve this target of undermining the Pakistan Army with force through India. It looks like a win-win situation for USA and India.
The USA secretary of state, Condoleezza Rice, recent visit to Islamabad looked like she was not here as an arbitrator rather a messenger of India giving Pakistan list of actions the USA-India nexus wanted us to do. It looked she was here to hand over the charge-sheet India made against us and she fully concurred with it. That is the only explanation one can give, as to why she did not bother to give any evidence of Pakistani involvement in the Mumbai drama rather based her accusation on “a lot of information”. I wonder this time her information is better than the information on Iraq’s weapon of mass destruction. Chairman of the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff Admiral Mike Mullen visited Pakistan one day prior to the visit of Condoleezza Rice and demanded that Pakistan shall act against terrorist groups everywhere in Pakistan, not just in the tribal area. In other words, he accused that terrorist are scattered all over Pakistan and wanted all of the Pakistan to become a war zone.
All these actions by USA top official clearly show the USA inclination towards the India and its efforts to destabilize Pakistan in the process, so that Pakistan nuclear assets can be made safe from falling into the hands of rouge elements. That’s actually what the USA-India strategic objective are and if we know who our “enemy” is, than according to Sun Tzu- the great Chinese thinker, we can “fight without danger in battles”.
Let’s not forget that USA ultimate target are encirclement of China and Russia and India is the USA’s strategic asset, at least against China. Therefore, this is the right time to redraw the battle lines and align ourselves with China and withdraw the forces from our western borders and make peace with tribal people. These tribal people had always been our un-paid soldiers and if right steps are taken keeping in view the Pakistani’s interest in mind we can make peace with them and ultimate peace in our homeland. We need to remain positive, stay united and trust Allah that He is best of planner and everything is going to be all right. “United we rise, Divided we fall”. U.K. Dar
December 8, 2008 at 4:54 pm
I just have one small comment. The name of the terrorist is a muslim name. I am sure the investigating agencies would verify if his name is indeed true from passport and other identifications. Now if I turn the coin around, what would prevent a muslim for wearing the thread symbolising hinduism and pose as a Hindu? How does it prove he was a Hindu?
December 9, 2008 at 3:44 am
Pakistan is not some push over Nation
Dear All Pakistani Brothers and Sisters,
Eid e saeed Mubarak Baad
Our beloved Pakistan is sandwiched between hostile India in the east and mighty U.S forces lurking at our border in the west. Both the rivals of this nation have joined hands to thurst a war upon us from both the sides. A mallow drama of Mumbai has already been staged to concoct a pretext and implicate our mother land in it. On the other two sides; Pakistan has the towering mountains of Himalayas in the north and in the south the Arabian Sea. Pakistan finds herself barricaded. In the absence of any stopgap for the necessary recourse in our neighbor hood to divert or to recoil; Pakistan has no choice but to fight it out on both the hostile fronts and fight it frontally.
The Joint attack plan by India from East and U.S.from the west is an all out war to eliminate Pakistan; the only potent, nuclear power in Islamic world. It is but natural for both the oppressors to subjugate Pakistan and jointly dominate the future world economic mineral resources of Middle and Central Eastern Asia and keep a check n control on the other powers like China and Russia in the area.
Pakistan is an ideological state and for her survival in the wake of dire circumstances; it is but necessary to get gather all possible means to ensure the security of our nation. We all are there; if Pakistan is there.
Pakistan is certainly not some push over nation. In Pakistan, there live incredible people and only incredible people do have incredible problems. God does not allow challenges to small people. No pressure stands to back us down. We are certainly equipped to overcome all our problems. Our enemies may be powerful but our God is Mighty powerful. We need to know who we are and know that God matches the size of the destiny. God has bestowed Pakistanis for the chosen destiny to lead the world and bring the world from darkness to the light of God. When God is with us; who dare challenge us?
For Extraordinary powers and for an extraordinary future; there ought to be Extraordinary Challenges. We must not get discouraged by the enormity of problems. Dream often take long time to come about but dreams may not be scaled down. Remember your dreams. Search your heart and soul; to go from pits to promotions.
Depth of our past is the height of our future. Pakistan is not just a push over Land. Pakistan is in the palm of our God. Believe that God does not stop us but promotes us. Our Faith in God is our shield. We are the believers of the last of the Commandments of God; the summit of all the religions; Islam. If God is with us, who dare comes against us.
We need to put on the armor of God.
The breast plate of righteousness.
The belt of growth
The shoes of peace.
The Sword of spirit.
Strong is our lord. We are blessed. We are prosperous. With Allah’s grace; Best are the days in front of us. We are not protected for our back because we are never dressed for to run away from the enemy.
Pakistan is God gifted land of extra ordinaries; who have got an extra ordinary future. Pakistan is in it— to win it.
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Love for all, Hatred for None
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December 9, 2008 at 7:27 am
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December 11, 2008 at 9:38 pm
[...] so-called Islamic jehadis with beards and turbans, the Mumbai terrorists came with strange looks, wearing jeans and T-shirts, clean-shaven, no turbans nor any sign of ‘Muslims [...]
December 12, 2008 at 10:13 am
[...] so-called Islamic jehadis with beards and turbans, the Mumbai terrorists came with strange looks, wearing jeans and T-shirts, clean-shaven, no turbans nor any sign of ‘Muslims [...]
December 12, 2008 at 12:10 pm
Ten words tell, who were those terrorists
10 Words a Pakistani would never say:
One of the most interesting things about the Mumbai terrorist attack was that the terrorists called a TV station and talked to
journalists and rambled on and on about their perceived grievances with the rest of the world.
And it was very much rambling on their part because half the stuff made no sense whatsoever.
In the aftermath of the attacks, with the Indian Government trying to put all the blame on Pakistan, it is interesting to listen to these
audio recordings because even a cursory listening leaves one in no doubt that the person on the phone is NOT of Pakistani origin. Since
the Indian Government at no point has denied that these calls were a hoax or were not from the terrorists we can assume for now that they
were indeed originating from Nariman House and Mr. Imran (how unoriginal a name ! bet one of the other names that the Indian
Government releases for the terrorists will be Javed, those two names have been staples of Indian nightmares for a few decades now ! ) was
on the other side.
Among a lot of Hindi words that ‘Mr. Imran’ used, the following 10 are least likely to be used by a Pakistani, Punjabi or otherwise:
1. Julm — as an exasperated Javed Akhtar pointed out to someone on Indian Idol, don’t butcher the language, it is zulm not julm and no
Pakistani would EVER say julm.
2. Jiadati — ditto – its ziadati
3. Jindagi — zindagi, you moron!
4. Naita — naita !! who would call a politician naita in Pakistan? Siyasatdan dude !
5. Itehas — err … history is tareekh for a Pakistani, not itehas no matter how many Bollywood films you’ve digested !
6. Shanti — aman, not Shanti ! Shanti for Pakistani’s means ‘ugly Indian woman’ !!
7. Parsaran — a word we used to make fun of while listening to Hindi commentators on TV…”match ka seedha parsaran” !! Definitely
not in any Urdu dictionary.
8. Atank Waadi — what? if he’d called himself a ‘khalnayak’ too, it would have made my day !
9. Anayai — that’s un-ay-i. Don’t know what a Pakistani would say, ziadati I guess !! not in any Pakistani’s vocabulary anyway.
10. Paatshala —- no I’m not making that up. He actually called a school that !!
and I haven’t even mentioned the ’shuction’ (section) and ‘meray ko’ and ‘tumharay ko bol rahay hain na’ and ‘mudhbhir’ and a host of
other very Indian vocabulary that this guy was using.
To listen go to You Tube:
Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhO6rynb1C8
I think if the blame has to be put on Pakistan for any and every terrorist activity that happens in India they can at least do us the courtesy of teaching these people proper Urdu or at the least let Javed Akhtar make the phone calls in future !
December 12, 2008 at 7:06 pm
Mumbai Investigation:
Latest contradictions revealed in Investigation:
1.Earlier they said 10 terrorist but from Launch Khuber they are
claiming recovery of baggage of 15 terrorist. Earlier they said driver
was killed but now it is revealed that driver was not on the launch.
If launch hijacked on 13-11-2008,it could reach Mumbai on 16 but it
reached on 26 where the launch of for 10 days.The documents of launch
are forged. Forgery FIR has been registered.The photograph of dingy
shows that 10/15 persons cannot travel with huge baggage in it.
2.A taxi driver stated before ATS police that he dropped seven
terrorist at Hotel Taj where it was claimed that two terrorist entered
the hotel.Blasts in two taxies are untraceable.
3.There are two firing spot where police unable to trace the attackers
and alleged 10 persons were not named for that.
4.Prior attack on Narimahouse 100 days grocerries with liquor was purchased
by the Narimahouse residents.
5.There are five persons in police custody remand and three of them
are Hindus and one is policeman.There remand report and case diaries
are showing involvment of Hindu militants working for Akhand Bharat.
6.People who attacked Cama hospital were speaking Marathi fluently
(Mumbai Language).
I have collected this evidence form Indian record available on net:
The indian nation has realized who was behind the attacks. Therefore,
they have started demonstrations against hipe and war.Spread this and
go into cross talks with Indians and explain them the incoming danger
to their country that in blame game on Pakistan the India by his own
people would face the same terror which the Pakistan is facing.Explain
them Pakistan is the victim of terrorism.
December 13, 2008 at 10:28 am
has anyone in the world noted that the picture touted as that of the “sole surviving mumbai militant” at the railway station shows an umbrella hanging on the man’s right side and not a weapon of any sort. in antoher shot you see a white round shaped object in front of the man’s body. what is that? the rdx box? since when, by a stroke of jadu, an umbrella is turned into a gun? david copperfield should get some clues from the hindu masters at bjp, ss, and rss. is the so-called objective western media taking us for a ride by a relentless show of these shots? that’s an insult to both our intelligence, and photoshop.
December 13, 2008 at 11:23 am
Pakistan does not benefit from the attacks. Thus, the prime suspects are
India’s RSS/BJP with the help of their handlers, Mossad.
1- Unlike other terrorists, the terrorists in Mumbai, like in 9/11, 7/7,
etc., have not demanded anything? They don’t demand release of their
co-prisoners nor demanded money… why?? what was their target then? To
create propaganda for the Zionists to gain public support for invasions to
plunder?
2- Unlike other Afghan fighters with beard and turbans, why did the 9/11 and
the Mumbai terrorists come with strange looks on drugs with LSD, intoxicated
with beer, carrying liquor, in jeans and T-shirts, clean-shaved and no
turbans nor any sign of Islamic attire we normally see on the media?
3- And the Terrorists attackers killed mostly muslim pilgrims and wedding
participants?
4- Beer drinking terrorists; Jehadi terrorists must be non-alcoholic,
however Mumbai Terrorists are on LSD, go to the cafe and drink beer before
they start firing?
5- Mumbai terrorists (as shown by media) had close similarities with RSS
cadres: Mumbai terrorist wearing an yellow band on his right hand as RSS
cadres wears normally (see pictures).
6- Mumbai terrorists conveniently find their targets by killing ATS leaders
[Hemant Karakare, CP Ashok Kamthe & Vijay Salskar) in the early hours of
their terror? How can they be so specific to clearly chose ATS leaders? And
the terrorist immediately ran away, why? & who were those terrorists?
Hemant Karakare has arrested senior RSS Hindu terror group members in the
military who had staged the recent Delhi and other bombings in India and
then had blamed them on Indian muslims. xhttp://www.khalista
nnews.com/content/view/2437/1/
7- Only one terrorist is caught alive (?), all others killed as in every
encounter in the recent past? The death terrorists faces were mutilated
beyond recognition.
8- Mumbai terrorists are very clear about their targets, they are well
experienced their hide about in Taj and other places?
9- The Indian Prime Minister, Sonia & LK Advani visit Mumbai, but no clues
or no claims about ISI or Pakistan.. However the No1 terrorist who was
implicated in the Gujarat massacre of thousands of Indian muslims by RSS
terrorists, Gujarat Chief Minister Modi goes to Mumbai and declares that
Pakistan is behind the attack without any doubt! [because he is the one who
hired the terrorists.] And he offers a reward to every military man killed
of 10 million rupees? Karkare’s wife declines ‘Modi’s compensation’ offer.
Modi even offers aid to MahaRastra state?
Note: no other Chief Ministers goes to Mumbai..
10- The media was widely reporting that there were documents on the
terrorists which showed Malaysian and Mauritious IDs however such references
disappeared once the real RSS Terrorist leader Modi arrived on the scene!
11-The timing of the Mumbai terror is well planned, just before state
elections!
12- We are told that they came from Pakistan by sea while the Indian navy
was carrying naval exercises at sea and no ships were allowed to go through
the Mumbai area? most likely these boats came from Mr. Modi’s sate Gujarat.
13- It took 60 hours to stop the handful of teenager terrorists!
Nov 29, 2008
http://www.expressi
ndia.com/latest-news/Karkare–s-wife-declines—Modi–s-compensation—offer
/392207/
Mumbai The family of slain Maharashtra ATS chief Hemant Karkare has declined
Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi’s offer of monetary help, sources said
on Saturday.
Modi on Friday visited the residences of Karkare and encounter specialist
Vijay Salaskar, who were killed while fighting militants on Wednesday night.
Modi also announced that his government would give Rs 1 crore to Maharashtra
for the families of policemen killed in the attacks. Karkare’s widow and
other family members have declined Modi’s offer, the sources said.
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http://www.mytown.ca/banglavision &
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December 15, 2008 at 10:34 pm
[...] U-turn and then state that the militants had been hiding in Mumbai for a month? Would a Muslim ever wear the orange arm band that terrorists of the BJP [...]
December 16, 2008 at 5:23 am
To Alex : Wow, we knew politicians are capable of corruption and evil, but for them to hire people to kill innocent civilians and then to bring in commandoes to kill those hired people is really far-fetched. They may be corrupt but to kill and maim people takes a lot more than mere corruption. It requires single-minded madness, dedication, hatred and purpose. No paid or hired killers would put their lives in jeopardy in such a reckless operation. Sorry, but this is clearly the hand of some seriously warped individuals.
December 16, 2008 at 6:35 am
@taniam
I do not agree with you at all. You have extremist politicians like Modi, Bal Thakrey etc They can do anything for their political gains when elections are near and Modi aiming for PM ship.
People who can do this ( http://pakalert.wordpress.com/page/2008/12/15/2008/12/13/2008/12/13/flashback-2002-gujarat-massacre/) can do anything for their gain! specially when an ATS Chief was at the brink of exposing the true face of BJP, RSS and Bajrang Dal to the world.
See how cruel they are :
http://pakalert.wordpress.com/page/2008/12/15/2008/12/13/2008/11/29/2008/12/01/video-the-hindu-terror/
The world see enough evidence and believe that Mumbai tragedy was a false flag raised by their own leaders who can do anything for their political gains.
THE WORLD CANNOT BE FOOLED TWICE, MATE!
Alex
USA
December 17, 2008 at 12:51 am
To Alex : Ethnic clashes between common men of different religions where a specific group targets another specific group is called communal riots. Those are spontaneous outpourings of violence by one community against another because of some perceived wrongdoing, whether true or false. Politicians cannot be blamed for that alone. I am from Delhi and I was there when the 1984 riots against sikhs broke out. They were not people from any political party. They were common people outraged at the assasination of Indira Gandhi. In those incidents many many people are involved. Here there were only 12 people who killed 168 people with sophisticated weapons and they targeted specfic religious and ethnic groups. The modus operandi is very different from the incidents you are mentioning. I doubt if any politician would be willing to risk his neck or money in carrying out this kind of a clearly expensive operation.
December 17, 2008 at 9:06 am
taniam, could you please list down top ten benefits/gains Pakistan, ISI, Lashkar or Dawa would accomplish by Mumbai Attacks and also list down top ten benefits/gains BJP, RSS, Shiv Sena and other extremist groups could avail after Mumbai terror?
Once you compile the list post that here so we can clearly understand what Indian public thinks besides what they are being fed by the corporate media.
We are very sorry for the loss of innocent people but we as citizens of this global village should be very careful about political cover ups and false flags.. this is the only survival for human kind on this planet.
Cheers mate!
Zong Li
December 17, 2008 at 11:04 pm
To Zong : Thanks for the response. Who benefited from the 911 attack? Nobody. Innocent Iraqi civilians lost their lives in the bloody aftermath of the US attack. People talked about “conspiracy theories”, that the US Govt. carried out the operation, but please, the people in the government are men and women who are educated, who have family lives, who have achieved some status in society. I think their minds are clearly more occupied with other matters than to plan an attack to kill their own citizens. These 12 terrorists even though filled with hatred for one community, still had enough empathy for their own community to selectively let people of their own community go unharmed. So why would the workers in BJP, RSS or Shivsena be different? They too empathise with their own community and would not go about killing their own people. Some semblance of warped love for our own
people prevents us from harming them. Its a pity that this love cannot be extended to all humanity. So, in any case conspiracy theories are at best far-fetched and have never been shown to be true so far.
December 18, 2008 at 9:14 am
@taniam, all I can suggest to you is “WAKE UP”!
More than half of US population now believe that 9/11 was inside job… we can clearly see the repercussions and benefits goes to evil Zionism..
there are plenty of plausible evidences and references available but for those who do not wish to WAKE UP… no one can do anything … when money and power involved, mere civilians does not matter to achieve higher objectives.. look around you and you will find one similar example not far.
Good Luck with your theory but try to keep your mind open for all dimensions.
December 19, 2008 at 7:24 am
Did you hear what Sitaram Yechury told the Rajya Sabha during the debate on the tragedy in Mumbai?
‘With the Indo-US nuclear deal, with the strategic partnership that you are building with the United States of America, are you prepared to face the threats of Taliban [Images] and Al Qaeda [Images] reaching our shores, not that Indian Muslims will be converted but the attacks will come from outside India because you are seen as a strategic ally of the USA? Has this even entered our radar of thinking that because of this nuclear deal and the strategic relationship we are exposing ourselves to new types of terrorist threats, which did not exist in India earlier?’
First, I hope Comrade Yechury was merely letting his dislike of the United States come through. If he was sincere in what he said, doesn’t that amount to handing a veto over Indian foreign policy to the likes of the Taliban?
Comrade Karat was quick to disown the Kerala [Images] chief minister’s remarks about Major Unnikrishnan’s family. May we expect a clarification soon, or was Comrade Yechury actually expounding the CPI-M’s official policy?
Second, Sitaram Yechury was just plain wrong. This is scarcely the first time that India has emerged on the Taliban’s or Al Qaeda’s hit-list.
On October 26, 2001 the Arabic television channel Al Jazeera broadcast a message from Mullah Omar, the leader of the Taliban. The relevant passage read: ‘This world has long been troubled, and full of wars and… these troubles will continue and these wars intensify. This is not caused by terrorism, but by the four countries which bear the responsibility for terrorism: America, India, Russia [Images] and Israel… This is why Muslims worldwide hate these states and want revenge.’
Mullah Omar was speaking almost seven years before the United States Senate approved of the Indo-American nuclear deal. His dislike for India stems from his belief that India must revert to Muslim rule.
That is not an isolated view. In the wake of the Mumbai tragedy, an article appeared in Time magazine under Aryn Baker’s byline. It carried the following: ‘We (Muslims) were the legal rulers of India, and in 1857 the British took that away from us,’ says Tarik Jan, a gentle-mannered scholar at Islamabad’s [Images] Institute of Policy Studies. ‘In 1947 they should have given that back to the Muslims.’
If that is what ‘gentle-mannered scholars’ believe in Pakistan would you care to imagine what ‘militants’ think?
There is no reasoning with such men, no amount of ‘promoting people to people ties’ is going to convince the likes of Mullah Omar to back off. It is quite possible that he sees himself following in the footsteps of certain earlier residents of what is now Afghanistan, men such as Mahmud of Ghazni and Mohammed Ghori.
Sitaram Yechury spoke in the Rajya Sabha of a ‘total lack of appreciation.’ One might argue that the blindness, deliberate or otherwise, is squarely that of the Left. One point, however, on which I might agree with the Marxist leader is that there is — or could be — a larger strategic aim behind the Mumbai tragedy. Previous attacks proved that Mumbai cannot be brought to a halt by terrorism. (Assuming the official statistics are correct, 173 people were killed in the November 2008 attack, fewer than the 209 who lost their lives in the Mumbai trains blasts of July 11, 2006.) So what was the terrorist objective?
Mullah Omar has made his dislike of India amply clear. But take a look at the map of Asia, and you will find that there is a rather large chunk of territory between India and any Afghan warlord with visions of conquest, namely Pakistan.
Was the deliberate public savagery of the Mumbai tragedy intended to push India to war with Pakistan? Many in Delhi [Images] believe that this was indeed the case. But why would the Taliban and Al Qaeda want to do so?
The answer may lie in the rise to power of Barack Obama [Images]. He is famous for his opposition to the war in Iraq; less publicised is the fact that Obama has been a consistent proponent of fighting more vigorously in Afghanistan. Both during the election campaign and after it, Obama supported the call for sending 20,000 additional troops to Afghanistan. More, he has refused to put a ceiling on the number of men or the time they will be there.
Where do the Taliban and Al Qaeda turn for sanctuary if they are pressed in landlocked Afghanistan? The Russian-dominated areas in Central Asia will provide little help. (Russia, please recall, is one of the four foes identified by Mullah Omar.) The Shia rulers of Iran to the west have no love lost for the Sunni fanatics led by Mullah Omar and Osama bin Laden. That leaves only Pakistan.
There is no dearth of terrorist outfits in Pakistan who would support the Taliban and Al Qaeda, the Jaish-e-Mohammed, the Lashkar-e-Tayiba, and the rest of that crew. But the Pakistan Army [Images] itself — possibly even elements of the Pakistan public — would rather not face American wrath.
But there is nothing that unites Pakistan more quickly or more vehemently than the threat of ‘Hindu’ India. As the war clouds loom the Taliban, Al Qaeda, and that alphabet soup of terrorist groups get the opportunity to become heroes in Pakistan, the sword-bearers of militant Islam against Hindu India as they would love to be seen. (And as some of them genuinely think of themselves.)
There are sure to be several in the Pakistan Army that would support a bid to overthrow the civilians and instal a fundamentalist government in Islamabad. War with India — or even a credible threat of war — would offer the perfect cover.
And control of Islamabad would give the Taliban and Al Qaeda the ultimate prize — Pakistan’s nuclear arsenal.
But you need India to go to war with Pakistan for all this to fall into place. This is where the Mumbai tragedy comes in, or rather the public outrage that followed the wanton attacks. The Taliban and Al Qaeda might well have calculated that a weak government in Delhi could not resist public pressure, that it would be forced to order surgical strikes on terrorist camps either in Pakistan occupied Kashmir or in Pakistan proper, and that this would result in outright war.
Once upon a time Pakistani strategists defended their support for the Taliban by saying that Afghanistan provided ’strategic depth’ in case of a war with India. Mullah Omar has turned that theory on its head; to him Pakistan represents ’strategic depth’ in his war with the United States, then a staging camp for the conquest of India.
We in India remember Mahmud of Ghazni best today as the man who sacked Somnath. But there were several steps he took over many years on the road from Ghazni to Gujarat — first securing his base in Lahore [Images] and Multan before moving on to what is now India. I am sure that Mullah Omar has not forgotten his history.
Mullah Omar is generally referred to as the leader of the Taliban. He has a grander vision of himself, acknowledged even by Osama bin Laden as the ‘Amir-ul-Momineen,’ the ‘Leader of the Faithful’, the title once claimed by the Caliphs, superior even to Mahmud of Ghazni who was a mere sultan. To a man of such overweening ambition, wouldn’t the attacks in Mumbai be well worth the throw of the dice?
as written by – T V R Shenoy
December 20, 2008 at 7:56 am
Friday, 19 December 2008 19:13
In a sensational development, authorities have claimed busting a clandestine terror network set up by jailed killer of Daniel Pearl inside the Hyderabad Jail and the Sindh government has suspended senior police and jail officials after a large number of cell phones, SIMs and other equipment were recovered.
Highly-placed Interior Ministry sources confided Wednesday the jailed terrorist had also threatened Gen Pervez Musharraf on his personal cell phone in the second week of November and planned to get him eliminated by a suicide bomber.
The caller reportedly told the former president: “I am after you, get ready to die.” Subsequent investigations by the authorities revealed the threatening phone call was made by someone from the Hyderabad Central Jail. Being a suspect, Sheikh Omar was placed under observation before it transpired that he was the one who had threatened the former strongman.
The authorities came to know that a plot had been hatched by Sheikh Omar to eliminate the then-president with the connivance of some Lashkar-e-Jhangvi (LeJ) militants, with whom he had long been in touch over the phone.
As Omar’s death cell was thoroughly searched, three mobile phones, six batteries, 18 SIMS of almost every cellular company and chargers were seized from his possession. Further scanning of the alleged terror mastermind’s telephone records revealed he had been making calls all over Pakistan to former Jihadi associates as well as relatives in Lahore, Karachi, Rawalpindi and Peshawar.
Interestingly, however, his mobile phone records revealed besides having revived his contacts with the outer world, Omar had also been in touch with Attaur Rehman, alias Naeem Bukhari, a key Lashkar-e-Jhangvi operative arrested by the Karachi police on June 5, 2007 in connection with the January 2002 Daniel Pearl murder case.
When the barracks of Naeem Bukhari, being held in the Sukkur Central Jail, were searched, the authorities recovered one mobile phone and three SIMs he had been using to stay in touch with Omar and some other LeJ accomplices in Karachi and Rawalpindi.
During the ensuing interrogations, Naeem Bukhari was learnt to have revealed that the LeJ operatives had already been directed by Sheikh Omar to target Musharraf either in Rawalpindi or in Karachi, preferably by using a suicide car bomber.
The LeJ militants had thus been monitoring Musharraf’s movements to target him while travelling between his Army House residence in Rawalpindi and his Chak Shehzad farmhouse on the 1-A Park Road on the quiet suburbs of Islamabad or to blow up the bridge on Shara-e-Faisal during his next visit to Karachi at the precise moment when his convoy would reach there from the Quaid-e-Azam International Airport.
It was after the unearthing of the assassination plot that Musharraf decided to leave for London on Nov 22, 2008 for a short trip, for the first time since his resignation as president in August 2008. Although, he has already returned home, Musharraf is still occupying the Army House due to grave security concerns.
Following the recovery of mobile phones and SIMs from Sheikh Omar, the Sindh Home Department took serious action and suspended (on Dec 1, 2008) Hyderabad Central Jail Superintendent Abdul Majid Siddiqui, his deputy Gul Mohammad Sheikh and four other jail officials on charges of showing criminal negldigence.
According to the Sindh inspector general prisons, both had been suspended by the Home Department on complaints of corruption and maladministration. The IG prisons said there were complaints of serious nature against them, such as providing cell phones and other banned facilities to prisoners, corruption and maladministration. An inquiry officer has already been appointed to probe the charges.
The most astonishing aspect of the episode is that the scrutiny of Omar Sheikh’s mobile phone records proved he had been even calling Maj-Gen (retd) Amir Faisal Alavi, the former General Officer Commanding (GOC) of the elite Special Services Group (SSG) of the Pakistan Army. He was shot dead in Islamabad on Nov 19, 2008 by unidentified gunmen.
Although, the Interior Ministry officials are not ready to speak on the issue, a recent story filed by Carey Schofield of Sunday Times had quoted Maj-Gen Amir Faisal Alavi as having told her during an Islamabad meeting four days before his murder that he knew he would be killed by his own comrades, as he had threatened to expose the Pakistani generals who had been cutting deals with Taliban insurgents.
Sheikh Omar Saeed has not divulged any information so far as to why he had been calling Alavi. But Musharraf has stated in his book “In the Line of Fire” that Omar was originally recruited by the British intelligence agency MI-6 while studying at the London School of Economics.
Omar was sent to the Balkans by MI-6 to engage in Jihadi operations, according to Musharraf, who went on to opine: At some point, he probably became a rogue or double agent. Sheikh Omar happens to be a British citizen of Pakistani descent, who had first served five years in prison in Delhi in the 90s in connection with the 1994 abduction of three British travellers. But he was released in the first week of 2000 along with Jaish-e-Mohammad chief Maulana Masood Azhar and eventually provided a safe passage to Pakistan by the Taliban regime, after India was forced to accept demands of the hijackers of Indian Airliner IC-814.
Two years later, on Feb 12, 2002, Omar surrendered to Brigadier (retd) Ejaz Hussain Shah, his former handler in the ISI, after being accused of abducting Daniel Pearl. At an initial court appearance in April 2002, Omar had almost confessed to his crime by stating: “I don’t want to defend myself. I did this… Rightly or wrongly, I had my reasons. I think our country shouldn’t be catering to American needs.”
As a matter of fact, it is five-and-a-half years since an anti-terrorism court in Karachi sentenced him to death. Omar, a graduate from the London School of Economics, became a Jihadi for the high-profile Pearl murder.
It was on July 15, 2003 that Omar and his three accomplices were awarded life imprisonment by Justice Ali Ashraf Shah in a heavily fortified makeshift court, set up in a bunker underneath a prison inside the Hyderabad Jail. No journalist was allowed to attend the court proceedings and the venue had to be changed three times because of bombing threats and security concerns.
The trial judge was also changed thrice. Forensic scientists initially refused to attend the exhumation of the court for fear they would be killed. Police personnel who were known to confront all kinds of savage criminals behaved like lambs in front of the terrorist and police officers were intimidated by him in the court of law in front of the judge.
As soon as the July 15, 2003 verdict was announced, Omar, who had already been declared a dangerous prisoner and confined to an isolation death cell, reacted defiantly, saying that he would retaliate against the authorities for arranging the sentence. In a message read out by his lawyer outside the court room, Sheikh Omar said: ” We shall see who will die first. Either I or the authorities who have arranged the death sentence for me.” Almost six months later, in December 2003, Gen Musharraf survived two separate assassinations attempts in Rawalpindi. The authorities suspect that Sheikh Omar had links with the two suicide bombers who blew themselves up to assassinate Musharraf and the attempts owed to the death penalty awarded to Omar.
As things stand, the anti-terrorist court’s verdict has not been implemented so far and Sheikh Omar continues to avoid being sent to the gallows due to repeated adjournments of his appeal against conviction, pending in the Sindh High Court for years now. Reports emanating from the Hyderabad Central Jail say the guards stationed outside Omar’s death cell are rotated almost daily because he has the ability to influence anyone he meets.
As a matter of fact, Omar had actually managed to prevail upon the first four police constables deployed outside his cell, with all of them growing beards within days after they were assigned to guard his ward. The jail authorities say if the guards outside his cell are not rotated every day, Omar is fully capable of bringing the entire jail staff round to his view. He is presently reading books on history, particularly on World War-I and II, the Cold War and the Afghanistan and Iraq conflicts.
December 22, 2008 at 8:59 pm
I am sure if the Indians had any real evidence they would have shown it by now.
Relying on the “confession” of a terrorist at the hands of a 3rd world corrupt inept intelligence outfit as your evidence hardly seems worthy of attention in the real world.
We are told that the Indians are worried about divulging their fabricatious intelligence-gathering methods if they give any “credible” evidence to the world.
They would rather prefer war!?!
yeah right….pull the other one will you.
I notice that the usual US-UK dynamic duo act is quick off the start line in “corroborating” the so called evidence.
All rather pathetic and worthy of a complete lack of sympathy for the Indians.
We know for a fact that the CIA set up multiple militia outfits in Pakistan to fight the Taleban and Pakistan still needs to find ways of controlling these remnants of the US foreign policy.
But to use a false flag or internal issue from India to cause trouble for neighbours comes right out of the Israeli fascist handbook.
December 28, 2008 at 6:14 pm
Just a “Saffron Band” gives a strong proof of the Kasab being Indian/Hindu? I pity. If we are litereate, let us learn to evaluate and analyze each of the support and not get led with hysteric mails and forwards and beliefs. If he is not from “Pakistan”, Pakistan Govt will deny any legal help to Kasab. Am I right? Let us watch.
2- It is democratic system of country that despite “KASAB” killing people, Indian Legal system is trying him in Court and within a legal system.
3-Question to all my friends and brothers and sisters from Pakistan and India- “What would be your action or reaction, If it is certain & provided that Kasab killed your own brothers, parents. Will you so much patience and tolerance to try him to Legal system or will you not demand just burn him to death.
4-Another Question- “If international agencies other than Indian, identifies the persons come from Pakistan, what would our religion and faith and moral would guide us to do and support for & to whom?
5- Just analyze and reply… I am not against and in favor of any nation and nationality. I am for humanity and against any violence…
December 30, 2008 at 8:06 am
i do agree with this blog contents. All terorist attact was only fake drama. Islam means “peace”
December 31, 2008 at 8:20 am
Hindu leader admits he was involved in Malegaon blasts
NEW DELHI, Dec 30: Dayanand Pandey, a Hindu religious leader, has admitted to his involvement in the Malegaon blasts, according to officials.
Media reports quoting Additional Commissioner of Police (Anti-Terrorism Squad) Parambir Singh on Tuesday said that Pandey had confessed to his involvement in the deadly attack.
Precautions have been taken to ensure that his confession is admissible in court. Pandey was arrested in Kanpur on November 12.
He was charged with plotting the bomb blasts outside a mosque along with prime accused Pragya Singh Thakur and Lt-Col Shrikant Purohit. Eight persons were killed in the explosion.
Pandey had attended several meetings with the other accused for planning the blasts. Purohit had helped Pandey in getting weapons and explosives.
Police said it had recovered a laptop from Pandey that contained audio and video clippings which revealed details about his several meetings with the other 10 accused.�APP
http://www.dawn.com/2008/12/31/top13.htm
December 31, 2008 at 4:15 pm
Apparently white men among the killers:
“They did not look Indian, they looked foreign. One of them, I thought, had blonde hair. The other had a punkish hairstyle. They were neatly dressed,” says Mr Amir.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/7752625.stm
“I went into the building late last night,” he said. “I got a shock because they were white. I was expecting them to look like us. They fired three shots. I fired 10 back.”
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/nov/27/mumbai-terror-attacks-india4/print
Strange about Nariman house:
“The role that Nariman House is coming to play in this entire attack drama, is puzzling. Last night, residents ordered close to 100 kilograms of meat and other food, enough to feed an army or a bunch of people for twenty days. Shortly thereafter, the ten odd militants moved in, obviously, indicating that the food and meat was ordered, keeping their visit in mind, another cop added.”
http://www.mid-day.com/news/2008/nov/281108-Nariman-House-terror-hub.htm
Not Pakistani:
“The young gunmen said little during the harrowing drive, but spoke Hindi with a strong Punjabi, north-Indian accent.”
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081130/ap_on_re_as/as_india_left_for_dead
January 7, 2009 at 2:19 pm
No sane Pakistani will name himself “Qasab” It is like calling name……
Most Pakistanis were long time ago Hindus and hence there is strong Hindu influence in the society. Unfortunately according to Hindu religion the human beings are divided into various races. Brhamins have caused this division just like cow worshiper Zionists (See Surah Al-Baqrah of Quran; where it is clearly shown that the Zionists had started secretly worshiping a golden cow, which was ordered by Allah to slaughter. Initially Zionists as usual try to make mockery of Moses and started asking stupidest questions. However they were cornered and they had to slaughter cow). Due to this Hindu racist effect in Pakistan Qasab meaning butcher carries a low or bad name. The Qasab (Butuchers) have transformed themselves into Qureshis. Like many doom mirasi who have become Syed over night. All prostitutes of Hira Mandi and many singers and dacners alike have become “Syed”! Amazing as if (Na’oozobillah) Allah wanted all these rubbish people in the progeny of the Prophet (PBUH). No way.
It is saying that clever crow eats shit. So the Americans made a blunder when they invented the name of Al-Qaeedah. Although Qaeeda may have several meaning but in Quran this word in condemned categorically at many place as Qaeedah means sitting and Qaeedeen are those who do not participate in Jihad in the path of Allah. Can you imagine a so called Mujahideen organization calling itself Al-Qaeedah rather than Al-Mujahiddon. Can any Muslim organization will name itself Al- Munafiqoon or Al-Kaafiroon? The word Kaafir has many different meanings. Its root meaning is covering and English word cover is derived from Arabic word kafar. The act of concealing seed in earth is called Kafr. And the farmer is called Kaafir (See Surah Al-Hadeed). Those who do Kufr of the false gods (Ta’ghoots) hold a support which will never break says Quran. Here Kufr has good meaning but word kufr generally refers to non believers who conceal truth and do not believe in Allah and His final messenger. Hence no Muslim will call himself a Kaafir and no Muslims organziation will call itself Al-Qaeedah.
As India has many agents in high positions and at least one top English daily receive bribe from RAW, it is quite possible that Mr. Qasab (A RAW agent just like Mr. Aswat a MI 5 agent with Taliban dress and beard) has confessed him being Pakistani and some Indian agent in Pakistan will confirm that but we Pakistanis know that no body will call himself a Qasai or Qasab. It is a shameful name. In my life I have NEVER heard or seen a name “Qassab”! Like these Hindu terrorist organized by India forgot to remove their Hindu identity symbols they forgot to give a proper name to their central agent.
Did India forgot its agent Sarbajit Singh who killed many many innocent Pakistani civilians and admitted in the court of his actions. If Indian Government was that anti terrorism why it asked for the pardon of Sarbajit Singh???????
So again the truth is that smart theives make many blunders and finally eat shit. We are ready to feed this to Indian army when it tries to invade Pakistan just like our brothers in Gaza who are ready to make Gaza the graveyard of israelis the moment those cowards come on the ground form thier tanks. Insha Allah Pakistani people will launch a gurella war against India which will not stop till the Brahman Empire breaks down pieces. Insha Allah with help of Allah Ta’lah. Allaho Akbar.
January 9, 2009 at 5:30 pm
wow! are you really a doctorate, Dr. Anwar Haque. If you are, then God save this world! Because if intelligent people are filled with ignorance and hatred, then how can this world be at peace? The first thing you did was rant against Hinduism and Judaism. I don’t think anyone can take your words seriously after that. Why close your eyes and be blind to the truth, when you can open your eyes and let the truth inside. And truth is, we are all one and the same, no matter what culture, what religion we follow. we just have to open our hearts and mind to see this truth.
February 12, 2009 at 4:22 pm
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April 17, 2009 at 9:59 am
nice, really nice!